trancedanne

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Yeah but does it mean a Russian producer shouldnt make music anymore? Why do they HAVE to speak out and take a stance? Cant they just be quiet and make music instead? People are saying DJ's shouldnt be playing Russian produced music...
Do they have to speak out and take a stance? No, but if you don't you are indirectly supporting the war in my opinion.
 
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Guys, we alp suffer from that madness, let's not make it any worse pls? We are so tired from that trash going on rn. Let's respect and support each other in such tough times!
 
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All this keeps posing the question to me - if one of your favourite ever solo singer/producers was ousted as a peado or raped someone - would you stop listening to their music forever??

I'd definitely stop choosing these tracks into my playlist.

I have a few russian-made tracks in my top favourites list, but I'm not intentionally listening to them anymore.

If I heard it somewhere randomly live I'd have a mixed feeling of "oh, love this track" and "meh, this guy's paying taxes which go into killing ukrainians". So it's a question which is hard to answer.
 

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Yeah let's please refrain from using insulting language directed towards others, and just agree on the fact that nobody (besides the powerful, the ones who profit and the general psychopathic, bad and severely indoctrinated people) wants war and tragedy inflicted towards other people. The vast majority of us hope this ends as soon as possible, whether we say it out loud or not.

I would personally guide myself by the "innocent until proven guilty" saying and trust that most (Russians especially, and others) also want the war to end, however I am not in your position (when I kind of was, I was 4 years old at the time so I had a pretty limited perspective, if any).
 
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If i was Russian,i would take a stance and create a post or something about it. But i dont think you should be judged if you stay quiet either.
Absolutely not, it's very easy to judge Russian artists for not taking a stance, but taking a stance there means getting directly the 'GO TO JAIL' card.
 

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Don’t think it is fair to say any Russian not speaking out against is ‘for’ the invasion.

As much as I dislike the government here in the UK, I know that any criticisms I aim at them in public is not going to land me in any serious trouble.

It’s easy from afar to demand people stand up, but if the potential consequences for doing so are at best being arrested or having your career finished & at worst being forcibly shipped off to a Wagner Group unit on the front, it’s understandable why some choose to stay silent.

That doesn’t excuse non-Russians travelling over there for gigs though imo.
 

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Absolutely not, it's very easy to judge Russian artists for not taking a stance, but taking a stance there means getting directly the 'GO TO JAIL' card.
Or worse, in case of Pavel Antov, Ravil Maganov, Alexander Subbotin and their direct relatives/ families
 
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When a respected professor finishes his lecture about quantum physics in the large auditory of 300 people, he would ask them: «Do you have any questions lads?»
He would hear silence for 5-10 seconds and thank everybody for listening, say goodbye.

That would never mean everybody got all the key moments of the lecture, that would mean people are stunned and they can't even formulate their questions. They haven't told him YES or NO.

Same applies here. Calling people who haven't made «a simple social media post» as supporters of this mayhem is the worst ludicrous example of certified bullshit.
 
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When a respected professor finishes his lecture about quantum physics in the large auditory of 300 people, he would ask them: «Do you have any questions lads?»
He would hear silence for 5-10 seconds and thank everybody for listening, say goodbye.

That would never mean everybody got all the key moments of the lecture, that would mean people are stunned and they can't even formulate their questions. They haven't told him YES or NO.

Same applies here. Calling people who haven't made «a simple social media post» as supporters of this mayhem is the worst ludicrous example of certified bullshit.

I agree...what are you going to do...trawl through someones social media to find a post condeming the war - THEN you can listen to their music! Ridiculous.
 

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Was Ahmed Helmy also super honored to play 2 sets in Russia in September and October 2022? 🤔


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Of course he banned me on his private page and the artist one, as noone needs to see the truth xD
 

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24th of February there's gonna be a trance party in Moscow with another headliner from outside the terrorist country - Last Soldier.

Shahab Shuli aka Last Soldier is an uplifting trance producer from Iran, who is being released on quite popular labels and their sublabels - Armada, Black Hole, Mondo Records, Enhanced, Raz Nitzan Music, Amsterdam Trance Records and many more.

Also you can hear his stuff at almost every popular trance radioshow, with having support from the most known artists in the scene.

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But again he's from Iran, a country which supplies Russia with suicide and combat drones against Ukrainian military, energetic infrastructure and civilians, so that's not a big surprise seeing him there...
 
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Ahmed Abdallah aka ZozyBlue aka the creator of one the most popular trance videos YouTube channel has shared on his social media his attitude towards the people of Ukraine and Ukrainian listeners.

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Same "meme" was shared by ZozyBlue official Facebook page.

"Music outside politics", yeah right.
 

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So a little update regarding Trancemission Festival in Moscow I've mentioned earlier in this thread.

The festival is not cancelled, and Heatbeat, Philippe el Sisi are STILL GOING TO PERFORM in April for a country which attacks Ukraine on a daily basis, causing problems for the whole world.

They will play in Moscow and Saint Petersburg 14th and 15th of April 2023.

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On the video below which was made 30th of December 2022 (apologies for being slow with these news) you can see Heatbeat wishing ruscists a Happy New 2023 Year and how he can't wait to perform for them in April 2023. "Russia - here we go" says Matias....



And something else I can't be silent about - tomorrow, 17th of March, a well-known german artist Alex M.O.R.P.H is releasing a track with russian artist Roman Messer on a russian label Suanda Music (yep, the same guy who released a M.I.K.E Push rip-off on his label and then took it off after Mike's statement).

What a fucking shame. Alex has been one of my favourite trance producers around 2003 to 2009 era with his amazing works and now this 🙄

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And something else I can't be silent about - tomorrow, 17th of March, a well-known german artist Alex M.O.R.P.H is releasing a track with russian artist Roman Messer on a russian label Suanda Music (yep, the same guy who released a M.I.K.E Push rip-off on his label and then took it off after Mike's statement).

What a fucking shame. Alex has been one of my favourite trance producers around 2003 to 2009 era with his amazing works and now this 🙄

So Alex M.O.R.P.H has his own view on this 🙄

As he has deleted his Facebook page some time ago, this is his only statement about the russian invasion in Ukraine since 24th of February 2022, where he stated that "war is not a solution".

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And now something different - a Ukrainian producer Vadim Bonkrashov has shared a screenshot of what russian producer Alexander Kovamor said to him in private messages.

I suggest to completely ban him from the trance community.

He's pretty unknown, releasing stuff only on russian labels, though 2 years ago he actually remixed a track from a UK producer Harry Square. I already warned Harry about him and the label owner.

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Translation of Alexander's message (WARNING, ABUSIVE TALK): "Vadim has shat himself and fleed away from his country pooping on his way, squeaking something with the urine & tears colours in the background (implying the colours of Ukrainian flag), crying and pissing himself. I hope you, fucking nazi,will die in pain and all your pathetic country. You have lost everything you could, cunts"
 

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What a horrible individual that Alexander Komariv is to say such a thing.

I will say though that I have to agree with MORPH, in that your nationality should not automatically paint you or isolate you, just because your government chooses to embark on hideous acts.

If this stance is to be taken then we also must stop listening to music from the USA, UK, France, Italy and many more. They have all been involved in illegal and deadly conflict for decades. I am from the USA and have never supported war, would you also lambast and censor me from participating in the global economy?