Jetflag
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I'd say of those in the List Above and Beyond can't even be called trance in all honesty, They're EDM with a trancy touch here and there.
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Magdelayna
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Not sure which ones you mean,but id say The Thrillseekers is an exception,hes pretty much kept his unique style and you can tell its him. And why just the UK haha? 90% of trance producers are generic as hell nowadays,doesnt matter which country.
Ofcourse i am exaggerating a little bit, but John O Callaghan, Will Rees, Bryan Kearney, Factor B, Darren Porter, David Rust etc etc. I just notice there are so much of these same sounding guys and I have yet to hear a legendary set from them.
Magdelayna
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oh yeah,i agree on most of them - they are overrated to hell imo. Not a patch on some of the legendary older Trance producers.
LostLegend
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Unless you’re the Chemical Brothers, cut this shit out. Maybe just have a splash screen behind you telling the crowd “put your phones away and dance”
Julian Del Agranda
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I keep saying it. Those festivals are not “dance events” anymore. It’s a circus show.
Unless you’re the Chemical Brothers, cut this shit out. Maybe just have a splash screen behind you telling the crowd “put your phones away and dance”
facade1984
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not sure if groot or a clicker. yeah the whole "giant figure reaches out to the crowd" is a bit cliche now innit
Unless you’re the Chemical Brothers, cut this shit out. Maybe just have a splash screen behind you telling the crowd “put your phones away and dance”
I really think it’s beautiful. Imagine we had these at Trance Enery end of the nineties? I would have loved it. I think it’s the smartphones and crowd behaviour that kilsl the atmosphere, not the visuals.
Unless you’re the Chemical Brothers, cut this shit out. Maybe just have a splash screen behind you telling the crowd “put your phones away and dance”
Hardly anyone dancing when armin drops 1998 and Armin van Buuren plays Castle in the Sky in this set as well. To think he was against it 20 years ago.
Julian Del Agranda
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This was the best day of the year for me. Finally an Armin with good music, let the music play for a good while, actual mixing, some unexpected classics.
Crowd wasn’t so bad. With for example Armin Only it’s way more people who know nothing about dance/trance and film all the time.
There was lots of recognition about all the classics in the audience during ASOT (classics evening). It was the closest to Trance Energy vibes since I can’t remember which ASOT edition…
Crowd wasn’t so bad. With for example Armin Only it’s way more people who know nothing about dance/trance and film all the time.
There was lots of recognition about all the classics in the audience during ASOT (classics evening). It was the closest to Trance Energy vibes since I can’t remember which ASOT edition…
JohnnyBarefoot1992
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Back in the days, if you wanted to be consider a proper respected DJ there were certain tracks by certain musicians which you could not ever play because those were considered "cheese" and to give Trance music a bad name, that's why most high-profile Trance DJs back in the 2000's, for example, wouldn't play music by DJ Sammy, Ian van Dahl, Sash!, Alice Deejay, Lasgo, Sylver, Milk Inc. and all those Euro-Trance acts unless it was a remix done by actual "credible" DJs/Producers, that's why I can recall Armin playing a Push Remix of Ian van Dahl - I Can't Let You Go and PvD playing a Humate Remix of "The Boys of Summer" by DJ Sammy, but nowadays, in a world in which DJs, for the most part, became clowns they can play all the "really cheesy shit" they claimed to hate so much back in the 2000's, that's why Hardwell and other pretty laughable DJs play some really bad versions of Cascada - Everytime We Touch, they no longer need to look or sound credible, sometimes they don't even have to know how to properly mix, as long as they play the dumbest, stupidest shit for the dumbest stupidest crowd out there they're safe because no one really notices those little details anymore, why do you think the most recent winners of the DJ Mag Top 100 DJs Poll are among the most incompetent "high-profile" DJs out there?
As for this, OMG, what the heck is this shit? Honestly, I don't know what's worse, the absolutely god-awful visuals or those stupid smartphone wankers.
Unless you’re the Chemical Brothers, cut this shit out. Maybe just have a splash screen behind you telling the crowd “put your phones away and dance”
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Goddamn, this has to be the longest ever sentence on TranceFix.
So true that!
Atmosphere was great, of course a little bit more 'commercial' audience, but over all just lots really lots of trance fans.
I'm surprised to see that crowd not moving, maybe it was just the front part that stood still. I remember dancing all the time
My favourite moments:
1) Playmo!
2) Fly Away (Cosmic Gate Remix)
3) Let The Light Shine In
4) Between The Rays
5) our sing-a-long with Sharon Den Adel
The only bad thing was that I had to leave early to catch the train.
But the greatest part was that I saw an intense happy Armin van Buuren the whole evening, enjoying every part of this show.
He still has such a great technique, showed lots of passion, and with that put an enormous smile on my face!
I just can't feel any good for Armin bc of his monopoly over trance music with ASOT, Armada etc and how it sucks the life out of the smaller labels and artists, leaving them without the attention/monetization they deserve. that also partially relates to Black Hole/Anjuna, what they do together is kind of cartel agreement to not let anyone else come to the major league. quality of music doesn't matter, like at all. they have the marketing capabilities waaay more powerful than the others and could sell any shit they want
ps: I don't mean these labels are consistently releasing music of worse quality than some other labels, in fact they sure get most or the great records since releasing there is almost every artist's goal, but if some smaller label would start consistently releasing stuff just as good as the Armada/Black Hole (or even better) - that won't change a thing for this label, they won't feel any significant increase of the income, because of all the charts and playlists will still remain full of the same labels' releases with just a meaningless minor slot for the other label's music in there. of course, technically there IS a way to get in by throwing the enormous (compared to the income) money for all the marketing stuff that could compete with majors for the moment but from a business perspective thats suicidal and will get you out of budget super soon. so, for real what smaller label's can fight for is just a bigger share of that minor slot that creates the fake image like there's room for everyone. no there's not and the major labels are doing their best to keep this intact.
ps: I don't mean these labels are consistently releasing music of worse quality than some other labels, in fact they sure get most or the great records since releasing there is almost every artist's goal, but if some smaller label would start consistently releasing stuff just as good as the Armada/Black Hole (or even better) - that won't change a thing for this label, they won't feel any significant increase of the income, because of all the charts and playlists will still remain full of the same labels' releases with just a meaningless minor slot for the other label's music in there. of course, technically there IS a way to get in by throwing the enormous (compared to the income) money for all the marketing stuff that could compete with majors for the moment but from a business perspective thats suicidal and will get you out of budget super soon. so, for real what smaller label's can fight for is just a bigger share of that minor slot that creates the fake image like there's room for everyone. no there's not and the major labels are doing their best to keep this intact.
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TRANCEBLASTER
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typical major label strategy... Universal, Sony, EMI or Warner are making the same game for 30 or 40 years now.. most and maybe all popular tracks of the 80's and 90's were released under their divisions.. also have created organisations like GEMA/SGAE/BUMA/MCPS/etc to pay fees from radioplays and gigs, but most of this money is never paid to the respective artists, but goes into a pool, where the 10 richest musicians of any genre are paid from, thats why they invented this system, playlists faked, etc..
JohnnyBarefoot1992
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It's not the first time someone tells me something like that. xD
What's with all of these trance guys jumping on the bandwagon of organic house? The latest example is Gareth Emery although I would prefer instrumental mix. Why do most of the modern vocal tracks sound like a copy cat of London Grammar or, Lady Gaga or Amy Winehouse, Adele? I miss the days when vocals were actually euphoric.
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Julian Del Agranda
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I never discounted the fact it wasn't a bad track but I do miss the euphoric sounds of vocal house/trance like Dove (I'll Be Loving You),, groovejet (if this ain't love) , Point of View,Beautiful, Troy, Summer Calling, It's a Fine day etc etc.