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Jetflag

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The invasion from Russia is still illegal and unnecessary. Ukraine is nothing but a proxy between two super powers who are led by egotistical tyrants and military influence. There are only two reasons for this war. Weaken Russia and fill the pockets of military contractors, who are about to receive 13 billion from US tax payers.
there's a 3e reason:

Large gas-pockets,, some recently discovered at around 2010 in Ukraine, are with current technology now accesible via fracking. Areas such as the Karkhiv, donbass, luhansk and crimea area. 💡

If controlled, this would either make europe all but independent from Russia in terms of gas, or it would make Russia the dominant natural-gas supplier for the next 30 years.

And my did that peak russia's interrest.
And low and behold was Ukraine all of a sudden a "part of the European family", where they wouln't touch it with a 10 foot pole before that as "a heavily corrupt post soviet state"
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dmgtz96

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He is still not his buddy 🤷‍♂️

funding NATO’s expansion/ the war in Ukraine is demonstrably not in the USA’s best interest.

threathing óther NATO countries to holdup their own trousers is.

Trump is using him, he’s not being “his buddy”
Why is threatening other countries in NATO in the US' best interest? So the US isn't left holding the bag to fund the Russia-Ukraine war?
 
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Jetflag

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Why is threatening other countries in NATO in the US' best interest? So the US isn't left holding the bag to fund the Russia-Ukraine war?
Yes, spot on.

you, the US, pretty much fund the entire NATO project, whereas my country can’t even muster the obligatory 2% of the defense criteria.

your country has pressing problems.
- crap infrastructure
- inequality
- a border that is leaking like a basket
- police that shoot first and ask questions later
- massive inflation

if other NATO countries pick up a larger share of the overall defense, then not only is that healthier for the alliance itself in terms of reciprocal fairness but it opens up swathes of money (that won’t need to be printed) for the US and íts problems.

100% agreed with trump here. Time to stop relying on sugar daddy USA’s militairy (and by extend not get pulled into illegal wars with them because no choice et al!) and do our part, and time for you to get your house in order before taking on the hegemonic mantle of “world saviour”
 
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dmgtz96

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Yes, spot on.

you, the US, pretty much fund the entire NATO project, whereas my country can’t even muster the obligatory 2% of the defense criteria.

your country has pressing problems.
- crap infrastructure
- inequality
- a border that is leaking like a basket
- police that shoot first and ask questions later
- massive inflation

if other NATO countries pick up a larger share of the overall defense, then not only is that healthier for the alliance itself in terms of reciprocal fairness but it opens up swathes of money (that won’t need to be printed) for the US and íts problems.

100% agreed with trump here. Time to stop relying on sugar daddy USA’s militairy (and by extend not get pulled into illegal wars with them because no choice et al!) and do our part, and time for you to get your house in order before taking on the hegemonic mantle of “world saviour”
I agree in principle with this, but I still disagree with Trump's statement about letting Russia do whatever they want. That just sounds dangerous.
 
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Jetflag

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I agree in principle with this, but I still disagree with Trump's statement about letting Russia do whatever they want. That just sounds dangerous.
Sure...and just to ease your mind a bit..

Look, its Trump we're talking about here ey? He's a massive jabbermouth and buffoon when it comes to these pre-election rallies. The man loves his showbusiness, spouting al sorts of non-sense just to rally the crowd.. We've seen this before, and so has Vlad.

When the man is actually in office he is waay more toned down and pragmatic in the sense of real politik foreign militairy intervention. Putin knows this, as evidenced by him staying in his kennel when Trump was in office (as opposed to any other president before and after him i might add). Despite the US Drone striking an Iranian Terrorist (Iran being a very close ally to Russia) on their very own soil

Putin is not going to attack NATO countries.
1, he can't afford it, especially with Sweden and finland recently joining 2, Trump has to actually pull out first before he can just "let" Putin go full Hitler mode, which he simply isn't going to get through the senate even if thats majority rep now.
 

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Fuck $355 million dollars Trump has to pay that's ridiculous. I am surprised by the 3 year ban in NY. I think they might push 5-10 year ban in the appeal.
 
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Oh, they're discussing what a bad Putin is again) And again, the nonsense about his lies in the interview with Tucker. The fact that no one has been able to clearly explain why Putin is lying confirms the truthfulness of his words. And you continue to believe the propaganda, because there is only one truth - yours, isn't it? ;)
 

Jetflag

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reflect/consider the following:

- you specifically made an account,
- on an itty pitty petite avangarde forum focused around trance music...
- so you could, once a year... defend Vladimir Putin... and solely only do that.

of all the things you could have done in service for the Great Leader and Glorious Russian State....this is what you chose to do. 😄

ты стоишь как пень с глазами
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dmgtz96

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Fuck $355 million dollars Trump has to pay that's ridiculous. I am surprised by the 3 year ban in NY. I think they might push 5-10 year ban in the appeal.
It's ridiculous that he has gotten away with fraud for so long. I don't think $355 million is enough for the damage he has caused through his business "ventures "