Dancing in the Shadows

Bobby Summa

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I have listened to the track a couple of times and I've still got the feeling I haven't discovered everything. It's kinda like looking at the ceiling of the sixteenth chapel, every time you see/ hear the different elements.

Like IXM said.... This really is a gem...congrats man! 👊🏻

Edit: I also think you should approach labels. I am considering to send both "Dream Beyond" and "Vivid" out.

Cheers man im really pleased you find this feature of hearing different sounds each time in the track. Does make it worth doing.

Your music is good quality. Il have a listen to your latest version of vivid soon and also dream beyond. ( i may have already heard it on soundcloud on your profile). Its all really nice stuff what i have heard. I definitely have heard one of your tracks and thought. Really good trance, i think a label would like this. Vivid i think but il check.
 
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It has improved in some ways, but to me its not finished/coherent/consistent enough unfortunaly .

The last time i listened it was almost a completely different tune, or am i mixing this up with something else ??

I must admit i do like some of the sound choices in this latest rendition but in other ways youre back on square one again. It builds weirdly to me and its still far from finished IMO. The "break" feels like the track starts all over again and it builds so slow and just feels very "demoish" over the lenght there. The beginning feels more energetic than all of a sudden when the break comes it changes into like a new intro/build again. And what happened with the melody in the latter part?? Its completely gone now.

I still think you got to put more work into the structure of the track and make it more consistent.

Listen to Hoopoe - Hutan. How its strctured.
 
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Bobby Summa

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It has improved in some ways, but to me its not finished/coherent/consistent enough unfortunaly .

The last time i listened it was almost a completely different tune, or am i mixing this up with something else ??

I must admit i do like some of the sound choices in this latest rendition but in other ways youre back on square one again. It builds weirdly to me and its still far from finished IMO. The "break" feels like the track starts all over again and it builds so slow and just feels very "demoish" over the lenght there. The beginning feels more energetic than all of a sudden when the break comes it changes into like a new intro/build again. And what happened with the melody in the latter part?? Its completely gone now.

I still think you got to put more work into the structure of the track and make it more consistent.


Cheers dude. Yeah the latter melody i edited the sound heavily because i thought when it was bigger it was something which i thought caused the track to feel like 2 separate songs so i made the sound a lot more subtle. ( i am tho very fond of that original sound from before but tried a compromise)

I admit the structure is non standard in areas but in my mind it works (although i at first thought it would suit a longer track better).

Thanks again for your views, be interesting to see what others think after considering your points. One thing i will say is, it can be hard as the creator, that when you’ve done a few different versions and basically heard the track an awful lot due to hours worked on it. Its hard to hear it like its a fresh tune or to atleast imagine hearing it for the first time. I guess thats why feedback is so critical. Taking a step back to analyse something purely objectively becomes very hard because of that.

Cheers man.
 

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You have the talent for choosing the right sounds and crafting individual elements. That said, I still think you can improve on the track structure, also make it more cohesive and coherent. It's been the case for quite some time. Maybe you can benefit from collaborating with an established producer, someone who can churn out finished tracks with consistency. What do you think?
 
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Bobby Summa

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You have the talent for choosing the right sounds and crafting individual elements. That said, I still think you can improve on the track structure, also make it more cohesive and coherent. It's been the case for quite some time. Maybe you can benefit from collaborating with an established producer, someone who can churn out finished tracks with consistency. What do you think?

Thank you mate, yes i feel i have good ideas, an ear/mind for the right sound, a fair ability to make that sound, a great ear and imagination to create atmosphere. Quite good with melody. But I can’t glue it together at all. I keep thinking, nah i dont need to purchase a track just to use the wav file to paste on my DAW to copy a particular structure and style, but. Im kidding myself i think. I did it once and it helped for the first sessions of the track, i then carried on the track with out referencing. Quite silly.
If I could find a successful producer and work in person, then id learn a heck of a lot.
I live in Brighton in England. If you hear of anyone living nearby let me know. Brighton is a hub of musicians. Alternatively if i could communicate via video call ( i have a camera and mic and good audio interface) i could collaborate with many if they are happy to communicate that way. Theres some incredible producers on here that release stuff. Id love to work with any. Me and jetflags track went fairly well using email of stems etc but if anyone is up for video call collab. Appreciate it so much 👍
 
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Bobby Summa

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Im also up for colaberating with any producer here who may not have release yet as many here like that are great too and like myself just a couple of yards from getting good enough tracks together for release. Probably best once i have learned structure/arrangement and some tricks from working with some established guys first.

The vibes from some elements/ sections of the tracks from unsigned artists here is rather good. Shows great potential I feel