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Hehehe yeah especially that Tottenham Spur game is one which always be carved into my memory (and not in a good way). Damn you Lucas Moura!
 

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We lost 2:3 against AS Roma yesterday in a very entertaining game in freezing temperatures. Gonna miss those European nights. I don't go to domestic league games.


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Mason Greenwood: Man Utd player arrested over rape claim​


Manchester United footballer Mason Greenwood has been arrested on suspicion of rape and assault following allegations on social media.
Greater Manchester Police said it was made aware of "social media images and videos posted by a woman reporting incidents of physical violence".
It added "we can confirm a man in his 20s has since been arrested on suspicion of rape and assault".
He remains in custody for questioning and inquiries are ongoing.
Manchester United earlier said the player would not return to training or matches until further notice.
The club said they "do not condone violence of any kind" and had been made aware of the allegations on social media but would make no further comment until the "facts have been established".

Mason Greenwood has not responded to the social media allegations.
The 20-year-old footballer, who made his debut for the club in March 2019, signed a four-year deal in February 2021 after rising up through the ranks of the United academy.

 

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The person who he raped, … was his girlfriend. Complex case?

Not really. She has photos of herself bleeding and bruised, and an audio recording which is a disturbing listen. I'm generally in favour of waiting for all the facts but there seems little doubt in this case.

Same player that was sent home (along with Phil Foden) on his debut England call-up for breaking quarantine rules and bringing girls back to the hotel.
 

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Fame at that age, pressure that comes along, and if he had some dark tendencies... Bound to end in something like this.

But the evidence seems rather circumstantial, doesn't it? Both photos/injuries can be faked or purposefully done, and the voice-recording too. Not saying that's the case here but if you look at it from the side of the law, the case will definitely depend on the testimonies and a confession. Given how rich he is, I believe he has the best lawyers already. Is it possible for them to settle out of court or will he face criminal charges?
 

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What are those videos supposed to prove Bladerunner?

In the first I see a young couple having fun. He makes a sex joke and she laughs. If saying stuff like “you like my dick?” is off limits, then I deserve the death penalty.

in video 2 I see two ManU players acting silly, he’s on the lap of someone fake-riding him. So what? what’s the problem with this one? It’s just two young boys acting silly.
 
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I dont agree with the jury by social media element. She should have gone to the police.

I think her father mentioned her phone was hacked and they got leaked ... 🤔
This was a UK tabloid interview. I doubt the credibility.
 
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I don't think that the two social media posts above are relevant or particularly revealing.

However, he has been arrested. While "innocent until proven guilty" should be respected, one should be very careful not to equate this with "let's assume she could be making it up". It is normal to assume that someone reporting a crime is telling the truth.

If this forum had any female members that we could ask, I'm sure they would take a dim view of anyone leaping to Greenwood's defence. But, for some reason, none have seen fit to sign up and post here...
 
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I wouldn't necessarily say anyone jumped to his defense, and I wouldn't equate that with looking at the case itself objectively.
 

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Perhaps. But I think if you see photos of a girl badly beaten, hear audio that repeatedly says "no/I don't want to" and a man gets arrested, if your natural reaction to that is "it could be faked/I don't trust it" then that is extremely shaky ground and not an opinion that is going to be popular out there amongst normal people.
 

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Perhaps. But I think if you see photos of a girl badly beaten, hear audio that repeatedly says "no/I don't want to" and a man gets arrested, if your natural reaction to that is "it could be faked/I don't trust it" then that is extremely shaky ground and not an opinion that is going to be popular out there amongst normal people.
Well, a bit of a disclaimer then: I didn't watch those. I don't think I could stand it actually. But still, can the evidence be accepted by the court of law?
 

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What an awful pair of performances from Dortmund. Absolutely underperformed, no fight in them.
 

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The world cup groups are out. My country (Switzerland) is in a group I think will be hard to determine the 2nd place, although we should be the betting mans choice for that position after a good performance in the Euros. Serbia and Cameron are not pushovers though and can get the results they need to make it happen.
 
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