How we used to live (serious topic)

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@Gagi, Probably written this in the wrong part of the thread. Its a response to the video put up about a man who lives on top of a hill each summer . King Of the Hill.

Totally the kind of thing i had in mind when writing my post in ‘Public Intellectual's’ thread just now.

In my mind doing this kind of thing comes down to a few important things.

Are we in a position to do something like this. If not are we prepared to get ourselves to that position or at least try?

Does that partly come down to how much we want it?

I heard recently an you-tuber / insta person (or whatever they’re called) committed suicide out of the blue. - The day before he had done a typical video with no suspicion or indication of mental health issues. Why did this happen?
- Did he suddenly feel so worthless ?

Whatever the reason, I would imagine so much focus on social media plays havoc with many.

If we can moderate our use of it, realise its a tool to reach an aim, not the aim itself, then it would be the useful thing it was probably invented for…then this is fine.

Or

if we just use social media for enjoyment purposes ( if we can be self aware enough of when it becomes a hinderance), then this is fine.

- Im told by my partner that Facebook used to be so different to now and just a place to do silly fun things. It was a little more enjoyable, but like much social media seems to do, expanded beyond its original purpose.

How we use something is down to us. Often its not the platform or whatever object it is thats the issue. Its our approach to it.

Life is down to us. How we experience it is very much down to choices we make.
We have to be self aware in order to know how we feel and what we are thinking. ( if not done right, this too can have its pitfalls and lead to over analysis)

With my partner I recently went for a 4 mile walk in a beautiful part of the country. It was a place we went once, when we first met. Our first day out so to speak.

Id been a lot before ( many years ago) but discovered a new path and saw a totally new area to investigate another time, (it was a bit muddy there so couldn’t do it that day as our shoes weren’t good enough)
- what i felt that day was so far removed from anything a computer or phone can deliver. Just peaceful and pleasant.
Even though i have long covid, i was able to walk far beyond what I thought id currently be able to and didn’t get out of breath once even though their were a few hilly areas. - It just made me think. This is better than anything a computer can do for you. Even writing music.
 
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I grew up witnessing this transition from a non-technological driven world to a technological driven one.

What bothers me the most is how Social Media has become a weapon of mass influence and how moderate thinking is increasingly disappearing.

Politics didn't use to be the mess that it is nowadays. (Which is now somehow possible to be injected into any conversation)
People pick their favourite extreme and follow it by rule, idolizing a political spectrum, party or person as if they were their "lord and savior".
It's pretty bad, pretty bad. Almost like a cult or weird fundamentalist religion for some people.

There are other things that we have lost and forgotten over time, some that I cannot remember now. I'm just here to add my two cents to the conversation.

EDIT: Smartphones, I don't believe they are necessarily a problem. They are just a composite of a portable camera, radio and a typical mobile phone in one device. Things people had before they exploded in popularity.
The internet is the only thing we didn't have on our side all the time.

Totaly agree
 
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Absolutely agree.

Sometimes i think it just takes one saying to themselves. Enough is enough. Ive had enough suffering. Im gonna sort this out.
Now… What’s important to me?

This is or was when necessary 100% my approach. But I do get it wrong sometimes, but its not to be feared too much.
He who ventures…
 

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I don't think the human brain can handle the sheer amount of dopamine from social media likes, upvotes, followers, etc.
It's just not natural at all. Humans weren't meant to be in the spotlight of millions of strangers. (See also: celebrities)
 

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Every time I get off trail from backpacking or canoeing trips, I always feel such a glow. Life on trail is so simple, brutal, straightforward, and so much more fulfilling than at least most things I do (luckily, not *all* things), and it's a perfect reset from the rest of my life. I always want to take a few bits of trail knowledge back to civilization to impart on my daily life... and then 2 weeks after I'm back in whatever state I was in before, albeit slightly more motivated.

Still, I feel so lucky to be able to put my life, responsibilities, and the internet on hold for a week+ a few times during the year and *bust ass* on trail. I don't know where I'd be without it, certainly mentally less stable. And every time I get back I can think with a much clearer head for a bit, with my daily routines and thought patterns broken, and almost universally, when I get back, I realize just how stupid and pointless most things social-media related are to me.
 

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I don't think the human brain can handle the sheer amount of dopamine from social media likes, upvotes, followers, etc.
It's just not natural at all. Humans weren't meant to be in the spotlight of millions of strangers. (See also: celebrities)
Let alone child brain…
 

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Every time I get off trail from backpacking or canoeing trips, I always feel such a glow. Life on trail is so simple, brutal, straightforward, and so much more fulfilling than at least most things I do (luckily, not *all* things), and it's a perfect reset from the rest of my life. I always want to take a few bits of trail knowledge back to civilization to impart on my daily life... and then 2 weeks after I'm back in whatever state I was in before, albeit slightly more motivated.

Still, I feel so lucky to be able to put my life, responsibilities, and the internet on hold for a week+ a few times during the year and *bust ass* on trail. I don't know where I'd be without it, certainly mentally less stable. And every time I get back I can think with a much clearer head for a bit, with my daily routines and thought patterns broken, and almost universally, when I get back, I realize just how stupid and pointless most things social-media related are to me.
Do I have a split-personality syndrome and you're my "other half"? I have to check the IP address just to be sure.

Absolutely spot on. When you see a huge mountain in front of you, and realize how you are in fact small and fragile in comparison to the harsh nature, that's so powerful for me. It takes away that "being the main character in your own life" feeling. I was the happiest at the end of April, when I was hiking in one of our NPs. It was stressful, it was physically demanding, it was pushing me to my limits in every way, but it was the highlight of my life so far. Not just hiking, but being in a remote village where there is almost no signal, where the only things you have to worry about are not being cold and having food on the table. Such a peaceful life...
 

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a few times during the year and *bust ass* on trail. I don't know where I'd be without it, certainly mentally less stable
i've, due to family extentions, not been able to go on autumn surf-trips with the lads to scotland/ireland/iceland etc. and I can tell the difference. I have to find that in moments during the day now, but god how I miss it.
 
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Not just hiking, but being in a remote village where there is almost no signal, where the only things you have to worry about are not being cold and having food on the table. Such a peaceful life...
I see why this lifestyle is appealing. My only concern would be if you need emergency medical care, to the point where every minute counts...
(Which is why I'll always live in an urban area with at least one major hospital, and quick access to a major metro area if required)

Personally, I'm fine with using gym time as my me/tune out of the world time. It's just me, my headphones, and the weights
 
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