Magdelayna
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Exactly - youre never going to get AI to make you a totally original style of music that is connected to an artist. (Think the Matt Darey/Lange/Ferry sound of the late 90's) We know it instantly.
AI, procedural generation and other new music technologies - What does the future of music hold?
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Exactly - youre never going to get AI to make you a totally original style of music that is connected to an artist. (Think the Matt Darey/Lange/Ferry sound of the late 90's) We know it instantly.
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Why he is naming and shaming them? I could understand if they are *cough* copycats *cough* but some of them aren't even trance.Jorn van Deynhoven just posted a 'worst trance releases' chart on Beatport haha - i bet some of these are AI tracks!
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Magdelayna
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I think most of those are bedroom producers releasing their amateur tracks through music distributors like Distrokid....thats the problem now,BP is so saturated with thousands of these kind of releases - you could record a fart,release it, and it would appear in the Trance genre section there.
what a douchebag move, should've included a bunch of shites ghost produced for his talentless assJorn van Deynhoven just posted a 'worst trance releases' chart on Beatport haha - i bet some of these are AI tracks!
Worst Trance Releases (June 2024) Chart by Jorn Van Deynhoven on Beatport | Music Download & Streaming on Beatport
Download & Stream Worst Trance Releases (June 2024) Chart by Jorn Van Deynhoven on Beatport. Explore the artists and latest releases of electronic music.
Magdelayna
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He has a point - you can release anything on there nowadays - theres no control at all. Imagine being a DJ and trying to find some hidden gems - youll waste hour upon hour on these distrokid self releases - theres literally thousands....
and by putting this chart he helps resolve the issue how exactly?
just generates cheap hype for himself
It's irritating have low quality product there? yes. obviously, unless it starts affecting Beatport income negatively, they won't take it out because that's still some extra cents
and lastly, if we're talking censorship, who would decide what's good enough to be there? I can't see a model of how this would work fair and not subjective
Magdelayna
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Of course BP wont care,they make a small profit off every release. I doubt 99 percent of these cheap tracks would sell any copies anyway. Im just saying it must be frustrating for proper DJ's if they want to search out some gems.
I don't need to imagine, I do that weekly.
It's not that hard to optimize your searching process - don't check Distrokid and similar services - their releases are 99,9% garbage and it does not worth the time surely to find 1 decent track out of 200, sometimes an artist name or a label or even a cover art gives away low quality amateurish product
the rest, if we're talking trance - it's not that much to check actually, an hour, two max per week is enough for trance releases. progressive house, techno, melodic house and techno genres are all much more saturated and just have bigger amount of releases and bigger scenes, trance is not that tough to handle especially if you don't need to spend your time on working on your 'own' music as in jvd case
Magdelayna
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Well i have no idea,im not a DJ - i didnt know you could filter stuff. That would be handy haha.
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there are filters but they're not too handy for this purpose. I meant you just skip some stuff that you don't want to waste your time on in the full list of releases or tracks by certain genre.
if you choose view of 150 tracks per page, Friday's releases (main day for releases) usually take 2 pages, 3 max, given that you don't need to hear full 2 minutes of preview (about 15 seconds of checking different parts (breakdown, drop) is usually enough for me to evaluate the melodies, sound design and technical quality (that's tough with Beatport preview quality though), that's not that much time so to me JvD was mainly just being a douche who he is for all his career
naaah I just pretend I know something
that's going strongly off topic at this point btw
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well done
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You kind of make me want to record a some farts and pitch them to make a song with just farts for all the instruments.
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When I had my own mix show for new releases a week worth of release used to take me a few hours and I checked every song apart from a few 'labels' that could never have anything good. I think I've done a month worth of release once in about 6-8 hours. Some songs you just need about 5 seconds to know - no good or too generic. Although I love some cheese from time to time if the song sounds right.there are filters but they're not too handy for this purpose. I meant you just skip some stuff that you don't want to waste your time on in the full list of releases or tracks by certain genre.
if you choose view of 150 tracks per page, Friday's releases (main day for releases) usually take 2 pages, 3 max, given that you don't need to hear full 2 minutes of preview (about 15 seconds of checking different parts (breakdown, drop) is usually enough for me to evaluate the melodies, sound design and technical quality (that's tough with Beatport preview quality though), that's not that much time so to me JvD was mainly just being a douche who he is for all his career
naaah I just pretend I know something
that's going strongly off topic at this point btw
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Magdelayna
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Thats scary. The vocal stuff that is generating is crazy - those tracks he made could easily be played on UK pop radio and be in the charts. My only question is - does it provide WAV quality tracks,or is it all lo-fi grainy stuff? He right when he says look what this will be like in a year or so....
from what I know - not for now, but as you've mentioned just give it time and more resources, the method is already there, it's just a matter of upscaling it to high quality
Magdelayna
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Also the movie score stuff - surely that will put musicians out of business - you could generate 100's of score pieces and pick and choose the best - piece them together for a movie. Companies will just hire a guy to do that,instead of paying thousands for a proper composer.
if we're talking Hollywood they have relatively strong professional communities that will strike the hell out of it, some celebs are already spreading AI awareness, so the premium tier guys will probably secure their income, maybe not fully but still. as for the others, less protected, they are sure fucked.