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dmgtz96

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Gaetz as AG. Not an onion headline.

edit: and since lots on here seem to treat Trump as a rational actor with a serious foreign policy agenda, look at the rest of the cabinet nominees. Weeeeeee this is gonna be fun (not).
It's going to be a shit show
 

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Who will be in charge of the anti pet eating bill? Does Elon musk have pets he likes? (Or has he a dark secret and eats pets himself?) Is he the man to draft this? What department deals with that? The cats and dogs deserve to feel safe.

—- Sorry for the poor humour. . it’s only one of the things that astounds me that he is president. I just can’t imagine how he became president again. Must all be money. It’s enough to consider the ‘illuminati’ real isn’t it? With the power America has over the world. . It’s rather scary times now.
 
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Jetflag

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Tulsi Gabbard as DNI. That's an amazing choice.
indeed.

Also, unless anyone here is genuinely of the opinion that the current kafka'esc, slow, pompous, money-eating, washington DC Apparachik is in fact a well-oiled top notch preforming machine,

I don't see how putting the likes of Vivek and Elon in charge of optimizing that/identifying where the kinks are is in any way a bad thing.

edit: and I just love how a lying, dying, and at this point untrustworthy legacy media outlet immediately feels the need to spawn out a smear propaganda piece labeling her has "a russian agent! wooooooh"


how the mighty have fallen :ROFLMAO:
 
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indeed.

Also, unless anyone here is genuinely of the opinion that the current kafka'esc, slow, pompous, money-eating, washington DC Apparachik is in fact a well-oiled top notch preforming machine,

I don't see how putting the likes of Vivek and Elon in charge of optimizing that/identifying where the kinks are is in any way a bad thing.

edit: and I just love how a lying, dying, and at this point untrustworthy legacy media outlet immediately feels the need to spawn out a smear propaganda piece labeling her has "a russian agent! wooooooh"


how the mighty have fallen :ROFLMAO:
Russia aren’t helping matters tbf:


Putin’s media machine are in full-on troll mode at the moment by the look of things.
 
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dmgtz96

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indeed.

Also, unless anyone here is genuinely of the opinion that the current kafka'esc, slow, pompous, money-eating, washington DC Apparachik is in fact a well-oiled top notch preforming machine,

I don't see how putting the likes of Vivek and Elon in charge of optimizing that/identifying where the kinks are is in any way a bad thing.

edit: and I just love how a lying, dying, and at this point untrustworthy legacy media outlet immediately feels the need to spawn out a smear propaganda piece labeling her has "a russian agent! wooooooh"


how the mighty have fallen :ROFLMAO:
Idk much about Tulsi, but I would say nominating Matt Gaetz has to be one of the worst decisions. Dude should be a registered sex offender that can only get jobs in HVAC and plumbing, not the top legal position in the government
 
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Russia aren’t helping matters tbf:


Putin’s media machine are in full-on troll mode at the moment by the look of things.
Putins media machine wholeheartedly endorsed Kamala m8. They will say/do anything to destabilise whatever government the us boasts.
 

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You know how many people I heard from in the last 24 hours that "oh my god Trump has chosen Gaetz, a peadophile, a human trafficker, a sex fiend etc etc etc" as Atorney General.

No one can think for themselves anymore. They are parrots of headlines that are given to them by a media balls deep in establishment bias, and I guarantee that not even 1 minute has been spent to see if any of it has merit.

Just search for 1 minute and you can see the Biden Department of Justice investigated Gaetz and for two years and found no evidence of this to be true. They couldn’t even indite him, let alone convict him. What happened to innocent until proven guilty aye? Not if it gets in the way of our us vs them mentality, where we desperately want to believe stories that affirm our own bias. The shit that people take at face value is insane today.
 
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dmgtz96

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You know how many people I heard from in the last 24 hours that "oh my god Trump has chosen Gaetz, a peadophile, a human trafficker, a sex fiend etc etc etc" as Atorney General.

No one can think for themselves anymore. They are parrots of headlines that are given to them by a media balls deep in establishment bias, and I guarantee that not even 1 minute has been spent to see if any of it has merit.

Just search for 1 minute and you can see the Biden Department of Justice investigated Gaetz and for two years and found no evidence of this to be true. They couldn’t even indite him, let alone convict him. What happened to innocent until proven guilty aye? Not if it gets in the way of our us vs them mentality, where we desperately want to believe stories that affirm our own bias. The shit that people take at face value is insane today.
Child predators are rarely given the benefit of the doubt. Most people would keep their children far, far away from someone like Gaetz. He's still a child predator in the court of public opinion.
 

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No one can think for themselves anymore.

I disagree. The original investigation didn't go forward largely b/c of credibility of witnesses. And we haven't seen the ethics report, and probably will not. Aren't you curious as to what it revealed or the timing of all this? Also, just b/c there is a lack of evidence to prosecute doesn't mean the accusations are false. When it comes to congress, historically, members were booted out or resigned b/c of credible allegations (Franks, Foley, Franken, Ensign, Packwood, etc).

Aside from that, he's like, the worst of congress, along with MTG and Boebert. He's not really a serious person, has not passed a single bill he was primary sponsor, and has a 20% approval rating in Florida (I think like 60% in his district). He's got a 'burn it all down' approach which does not align well with the position of AG (unless you'd like to see it all burn down lol).

At any rate, leading the DOJ is a very serious position. Gaetz is not a serious person. Nominating him just shows that Trump wants someone he can control completely, which goes so against the tradition of AG independence. I doubt he'll get confirmed, but if he does, it all but confirms the Republican party is wholly corrupted in keeping any sense of norm and integrity where the DOJ is concerned.
 
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dmgtz96

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I disagree. The original investigation didn't go forward largely b/c of credibility of witnesses. And we haven't seen the ethics report, and probably will not. Aren't you curious as to what it revealed or the timing of all this? Also, just b/c there is a lack of evidence to prosecute doesn't mean the accusations are false. When it comes to congress, historically, members were booted out or resigned b/c of credible allegations (Franks, Foley, Franken, Ensign, Packwood, etc).

Aside from that, he's like, the worst of congress, along with MTG and Boebert. He's not really a serious person, has not passed a single bill he was primary sponsor, and has a 20% approval rating in Florida (I think like 60% in his district). He's got a 'burn it all down' approach which does not align well with the position of AG (unless you'd like to see it all burn down lol).

At any rate, leading the DOJ is a very serious position. Gaetz is not a serious person. Nominating him just shows that Trump wants someone he can control completely, which goes so against the tradition of AG independence. I doubt he'll get confirmed, but if he does, it all but confirms the Republican party is wholly corrupted in keeping any sense of norm and integrity where the DOJ is concerned.
Also. They didn't want to pursue a senator without ironclad evidence. Average Joe Schmoe would have been pursued by the DOJ easily.
 

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He's still a child predator in the court of public opinion.

This would fall into the category of not being able to think for yourself.

I’m all for criticizing Gaetz on his politics, but parroting claims circulating on Reddit, in which you’ve seen no evidence to support, is fucking weak minded behavior. The investigation took place and it was two years. Not even an inditement. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was some politized attack after he pushed a policy that corporate America didn’t like.
 

dmgtz96

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This would fall into the category of not being able to think for yourself.

I’m all for criticizing Gaetz on his politics, but parroting claims circulating on Reddit, in which you’ve seen no evidence to support, is fucking weak minded behavior. The investigation took place and it was two years. Not even an inditement. Wouldn’t surprise me if it was some politized attack after he pushed a policy that corporate America didn’t like.
The venmo transactions plus association with Joel Greenberg are enough for anyone to think for themselves. No one in Matt Gaetz's position should have been involved with someone like that. IMO, Greenberg was just the fall guy for Gaetz.
I think the report should be leaked.


Edit: at the very least, Matt Gaetz is a pervert who definitely shouldn't hold the title of Attorney General
 

dmgtz96

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I'm super suspicious of anyone being a Donald trump or Elon musk mouthpiece right now. Certain people are gonna be mask off for the next 4 years. I won't list all the reasons why I feel this way either, if you wanna play ignorant then that's on you
Like Elon Musk fanboys? Yeah, those suck. There's no reason to *like* Elon Musk. It's been known for years that he's a shitty person
 

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He's a dumb person's idea of what a smart person sounds like and yes he has a rich and well documented history of being a piece of shit. Him being appointed to the government is such a blatant conflict of interest too, if you don't think so then just look at all the phony contracts the UK government handed out to their mates during COVID. So much taxpayer money wound up in their pockets
 

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I like Elon musk, think he’s a genuine force for good in this world/ humanity in general, in terms of human rights/free speech, sustainable energy transition, AI and making life multi planetary as well as being a welcome pain in the ass against pompous and incompetent bureaucrats who some seem to deify as the Church in the 1600ths.

Feel free to label me a heretic in the name of your preferred Reddit cult and/or corrupt media corpus of choice 🙏