Conservative or liberal (politics)

[Jetflag]

Then you wouldn't be opposed to the release of the report, correct?

Correct.

also in favour of releasing the Epstein & diddy list by the way.

 

[dmgtz96]

Correct.

also in favour of releasing the Epstein & diddy list by the way.

Then we're on the same page.

 

[Jetflag]

Then we're on the same page.

Well, almost, I think the report should be released and in the mean time the nomination procedure can afaic continue, given there is an abort button before inauguration date and a suitable replacement selectee in case of.

 

[dmgtz96]

Aand Gaetz is gone

 

[Jetflag]

Aand Gaetz is gone

Voluntarily pull out even.

then again, wouldn’t surprise me if Donald had a hand and/or a brief phone call in that.

 

[dmgtz96]

Voluntarily pull out even.

then again, wouldn’t surprise me if Donald had a hand and/or a brief phone call in that.

IMO, Gaetz has too many "skeletons in the closet" for such a high profile role

 

[LostLegend]

Voluntarily pull out even.

At least it was voluntary this time …
*I’ll get my coat*

 

[Jetflag]

At least it was voluntary this time …
*I’ll get my coat*

Nice.

 

[Bobby Summa]

I like Elon musk, think he’s a genuine force for good in this world/ humanity in general, in terms of human rights/free speech, sustainable energy transition, AI and making life multi planetary as well as being a welcome pain in the ass against pompous and incompetent bureaucrats who some seem to deify as the Church in the 1600ths.

Feel free to label me a heretic in the name of your preferred Reddit cult and/or corrupt media corpus of choice

You never fail to surprise me. Not in a bad way dude. You’re very intelligent so your opinion is always of interest and value. But you do surprise me sometimes.
Love and respect the way you’re not afraid to head against the grain however un popular.

 

[Bobby Summa]

Trump names his picks for FDA, CDC and surgeon general

Trump, 78, nominated Dr. Marty Makary – a professor at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine – to serve as FDA commissioner; former Congressman Dr. Dave Weldon to head the CDC; and Dr. Janette Nesheiwat – a Fox News medical contributor – to serve as surgeon general.

www.aol.com

A bit of information that gives me encouragement. Trump may have assigned some decent people for healthcare in his government.

 

[Bobby Summa]

It is offcourse possible that Musk is trying to do good things for humanity and I’m sure there’s probably lots of interviews where he comes across as altruistic. The same of Trump to an extent, that it’s possible he isn’t the shit many think he is. But. Sometimes can’t we just take a psychological hunch about the body language, expression and on top of that the wild things people do and say. The opinions they have (mostly regarding Trump here) and just judge them on being fkn dangerous because of that. It’s not jumping on hate band wagons to think that. It’s having strong human instinct and using your intelligence guess your emotional intelligence to see that (especially Trump) - is not good. Too much of what he thinks and feels (hence some awful policies / opinions on things like abortion), is simply awful. And Musk. Surely a lot of what he does … he’s out for ‘mostly’ himself ?

 

[Bobby Summa]

Sorry for all the seperate posts but it’s different aspects.

Has anyone considered any value in whether both Trump and Musk are interfering with the Ukraine / Russia situation in the way they are because of the resources Ukraine have for sustainable renewable energy? I’m talking critical raw materials such as Lithium . First a friend highlighted this issue to me. Researching a little I found this.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2024/07/the-future-of-critical-raw-materials-how-ukraine-plays-a-strategic-role-in-global-supply-chains/

 

[Jetflag]

Sorry for all the seperate posts but it’s different aspects.

Has anyone considered any value in whether both Trump and Musk are interfering with the Ukraine / Russia situation in the way they are because of the resources Ukraine have for sustainable renewable energy? I’m talking critical raw materials such as Lithium . First a friend highlighted this issue to me. Researching a little I found this.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2024/07/the-future-of-critical-raw-materials-how-ukraine-plays-a-strategic-role-in-global-supply-chains/

Not just lithium, Russia and Europe are very interested in the gas fields which, surprise surprise, are located in the Donetsk Luhansk and Crimea.

 

[dmgtz96]

It is offcourse possible that Musk is trying to do good things for humanity and I’m sure there’s probably lots of interviews where he comes across as altruistic. The same of Trump to an extent, that it’s possible he isn’t the shit many think he is. But. Sometimes can’t we just take a psychological hunch about the body language, expression and on top of that the wild things people do and say. The opinions they have (mostly regarding Trump here) and just judge them on being fkn dangerous because of that. It’s not jumping on hate band wagons to think that. It’s having strong human instinct and using your intelligence guess your emotional intelligence to see that (especially Trump) - is not good. Too much of what he thinks and feels (hence some awful policies / opinions on things like abortion), is simply awful. And Musk. Surely a lot of what he does … he’s out for ‘mostly’ himself ?

Yes, Musk is pretty awful. He bought Twitter and ruined it by platforming racists, misogynists, white supremacists, and nazis - all of which are repulsive to general society - under the guise of "free speech." That is why people tried to find alternatives, and everyone is now shifting to Blue Sky. Blue Sky isn't even a leftist platform - it's just a moderated community.

If I had to guess, I think Musk supports Trump because both of their worldviews match, and because Trump will grant Musk free reign over the regulators. Musk will be allowed to unleash full self-driving and his "autonomous" cybercabs with no one to oppose him. As someone who *used* full self-driving for a few days, I can tell you that none of Tesla's autonomous driving features are ready for widespread adoption, and they won't be ready for at least 10 to 20 more years.

 

[dmgtz96]

Sorry for all the seperate posts but it’s different aspects.

Has anyone considered any value in whether both Trump and Musk are interfering with the Ukraine / Russia situation in the way they are because of the resources Ukraine have for sustainable renewable energy? I’m talking critical raw materials such as Lithium . First a friend highlighted this issue to me. Researching a little I found this.

https://www.weforum.org/stories/2024/07/the-future-of-critical-raw-materials-how-ukraine-plays-a-strategic-role-in-global-supply-chains/

I haven't looked into the raw materials aspect, but I do remember Musk interfering by cutting off Starlink

 

[Jetflag]

Blue Sky isn't even a leftist platform

It will be in 1 week, .

I do think you’ve perfectly highlighted the main salt-timent that dems/the left have with what used to be their darling.

it’s not his efforts in making a better future for travel, green energy and space exploration/colonisation

It’s that musk took “their” twitter from them, and now they have to resolve to obscure online alternatives for their ideological charged censorship safespaces.

aside from the legacy media that is, which is slowly but certainly dying at this point.

If I had to guess, I think Musk supports Trump because both of their worldviews match, and because Trump will grant Musk free reign over the regulators. Musk will be allowed to unleash full self-driving and his "autonomous" cybercabs with no one to oppose him. As someone who *used* full self-driving for a few days, I can tell you that none of Tesla's autonomous driving features are ready for widespread adoption, and they won't be ready for at least 10 to 20 more years.

Musk and trump align on the issue of government, bureaucracy and regulation. Systems which both gentlemen have had to deal with as weaponised against them when they fell out of favour with the apparatchik that is the dems/washington.

but if I had to guess.. i don’t think it’s the self driving cars that musk, if he is to take advantage of this, will utilize. I do think he intends to speed up Space X’s test launches of, inparticular, starship though.

 

[dmgtz96]

It will be in 1 week, .

I do think you’ve perfectly highlighted the main salt-timent that dems/the left have with what used to be their darling.

it’s not his efforts in making a better future for travel, green energy and space exploration/colonisation

It’s that musk took “their” twitter from them, and now they have to resolve to obscure online alternatives for their ideological charged censorship safespaces.

Couple thoughts here. A lot of the racist/misogynist/white supremacists/nazis would have been shunned IRL, but Elon basically gave them a safe space for them to spew their bullshit. This isn't an opinion driven by liberal salt - it's just a fact. No one wants to be in a space where those people have a platform.
The other thing is that Twitter, Youtube, etc. have algorithms with negative societal value that shove a lot of right wing content down the users' throats. There's a big gap for a social media that doesn't use algorithms for engagement, and it's the niche need that Blue Sky seems to be filling.

aside from the legacy media that is, which is slowly but certainly dying at this point.

Yeah, I think that's a good thing. Legacy media needs to die.

Musk and trump align on the issue of government, bureaucracy and regulation. Systems which both gentlemen have had to deal with as weaponised against them when they fell out of favour with the apparatchik that is the dems/washington.

but if I had to guess.. i don’t think it’s the self driving cars that musk, if he is to take advantage of this, will utilize. I do think he intends to speed up Space X’s test launches of, inparticular, starship though.

Regulations were written on blood. Anyone who opposes them because it makes business more difficult is just a fool.
You make a good point about SpaceX. And test launches would definitely be something that needs regulation

 

[Jetflag]

A lot of the racist/misogynist/white supremacists/nazis would have been shunned IRL, but Elon basically gave them a safe space for them to spew their bullshit. This isn't an opinion driven by liberal salt - it's just a fact. No one wants to be in a space where those people have a platform.

…except the growing corpus on twitter that is already on there.. I’m actually of the opinion that most of what the former “twitterati” deemed racist/mysogenist/transphobic/nazi etc. Is actually fairly acceptable in most conversation irl.

When you talk to an average Joe neighbour and share an opinion, after a couple of beers, like:

“I’m not ashamed to be white nor do I think I should”

“girls, on average are attracted to strong, competent men”

or, heaven forbid, “I love my country and like it to stay the way it is”

You will, on average, actually not be shunned or “cancelled” from bbqs or birthdays. (Speaking from experience also)

the definition of what áctually constitutes as misogynistic, racist or fascist has over the years been stretched to such an absurd length by the small, very loud activist group that used to dominate the platform, that the artificial Overton window there tilted so far left, that you got to the point where drinking a glass of milk was deemed “white supremacy”.

Musk simply evened the playing field.

so now you can be a blue haired feminist on x and proclaim you “pray for a white genocide”. And you can a Tate bro proclaiming all women are inferior to men and you should just breed as many as you can to “be successful”.

not just one or the other.

Now.. whether or not that make x into a great place to hang out? That’s a completely different question…

but in terms of platforming musk just did the fair thing. Give everyone a voice within the rules set. Not just a preferred political leaning class, which used to be the case.

There's a big gap for a social media that doesn't use algorithms for engagement, and it's the niche need that Blue Sky seems to be filling.

Part of why I like trance fix heh 0 algorithms..
as for blue sky.. we’ll c. Remember everyone predicted x’s downfall a year ago? It’s hard to predict how things will eventually run.

Wish them the best in any case competition is always a good thing for the consumer.

Regulations were written on blood. Anyone who opposes them because it makes business more difficult is just a fool.
You make a good point about SpaceX. And test launches would definitely be something that needs regulation

Yeah I agree and They actually are. A lot of them by space x themselves as it simply bad business to en-mass have people die on or by your rockets.. and it’s not the regulations Musk has a problem with.

He has a problem with bureaucracies.

And quote: “you will never understand bureaucracies until you understand that for bureaucrats procedure is everything, and outcomes are nothing”

 

[dmgtz96]

Looks like the far right won in Romania. And it wasn't even a major political party - just some guy with a large tiktok following

 

[Jetflag]

Looks like the far right won in Romania. And it wasn't even a major political party - just some guy with a large tiktok following

Be interesting to see what’s going to happen with all those f16 my country just delivered