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[dmgtz96]

in my (limited) leaning libertarian view on the matter, what you need is to get rid of most of the massive middle management layers and kafka esq government interference. Small bureaucracy, local (provincial/municipal) hospitals

The Blairite model of the NHS "being ran like a company" whilst at the same time trying to be full on national government funded socialized healthcare (without any real market competition or profit incentive) along with all the bureaucracy that inevitably comes with that, --> Is never going to work, ever...no matter how much money you pump into it.

my advice would be: look at the Scots. If you have to have nationalized healthcare.. spread out, fragmented and with minimal (big) government. alternatively you can adopt a French/Dutch model. (but you're going to feel that in your tax-reports)

Essential services like health or even the postal service shouldn't be run like a company, imo. They exist to provide service for the population, not to be profit centers. This is why the idea of Trump running the country "like a business" was terrible.

 

[jetflag]

Essential services like health or even the postal service shouldn't be run like a company, imo. They exist to provide service for the population, not to be profit centers. This is why the idea of Trump running the country "like a business" was terrible.

No. They definitely should. If not you end up with situations like Cuba. Governments role should limit itself to things like quality check, but not running it

just because something is a public service doesn’t mean therefor government. A great local example from my country is the KMRM

 

[dmgtz96]

No. They definitely should. If not you end up with situations like Cuba. Governments role should limit itself to things like quality check, but not running it

just because something is a public service doesn’t mean therefor government. A great local example from my country is the KMRM

In the US, for-profit Healthcare still has the same bureaucratic issues that you don't like from government-run services, except that Americans get swindled and can't even seek medical care without breaking the bank. I'd rather have state-run Healthcare that people can actually use, even if shitty, instead of fancy Healthcare run by a private corporation that rips off everyone.

 

[jetflag]

In the US, for-profit Healthcare still has the same bureaucratic issues that you don't like from government-run services, except that Americans get swindled and can't even seek medical care without breaking the bank. I'd rather have state-run Healthcare that people can actually use, even if shitty, instead of fancy Healthcare run by a private corporation that rips off everyone.

State run as opposed to federal run healthcare I think is the way to go, if you want government run healthcare that is, for the us yeah,

One thing to keep in mind though:

- you ARE breaking the bank as an average citizen, except it’ll be in the form of taxes for healthcare, but also things like (among which) sugar taxor obliged sport programs in schools

if government receives taxes from you (so you know, their “profit” if you will). They don’t have an incentive to give you proper healthcare, they have an incentive to keep you out of healthcare as much as possible, since that’s cheaper, and when you do provide you with the bare minimum.

at the end of the day if you, as a healthy dem voting US citizen are ok with defacto paying the bill for a Mac chugling obese white trump supporter/ republican… then sure vote governors in who can implement such a state- funded healthcare system for all