Covid and vaccines and whatnot

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So instead of talking together about what do we do with the people who are not vaccinated and simply won't do it, the solution is simply to dismiss them outright?
a viewpoint commonly shared by empathic people standing up for the rights and liberties of minority demoniations...
 

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I think enjoying "hate" is not really something you should be proud of though... It's a bit scary even.

I didn't expect such a statement from you.
Don't believe I have used the word "hate", but disliking the minority of selfish cunts who won't follow the 90+% that are making the effort to get out of this pandemic isn't particularly controversial.
 
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Love it. Think he underestimates just how much of the public is against him, another element that has been heartening to see.
i stand with him... vaccines for rona are trash. masks are trash. I highly doubt many are against him.
 
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Don't believe I have used the word "hate", but disliking the minority of selfish cunts who won't follow the 90+% that are making the effort to get out of this pandemic isn't particularly controversial.
the unvaxx are selfish? that is a huge misnomer. The selfish ones push their agenda on us. I am not asking you to inject yourself. This is a twisted view of the facts.

Our cdc came out and admitted 42% of the 850k corona deaths are not from corona. They lied the entire time. They admitted it. When someone lies 50% of the time, you dont tend to trust them.
 
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I don't really like him (besides respecting his game), but I'm finding myself more and more on his side as this goes on. I feel this is purely a political decision which will only polarize the people more (which is useful for the elections, I guess). So instead of talking together about what do we do with the people who are not vaccinated and simply won't do it, the solution is simply to dismiss them outright?

I repeat, I don't really like him or agree with him on anything regarding health or medicine. His family seem like a bunch of loud-mouthed fools, and they all played a hand in this with their statements. But what do we do now? Shame and humiliate them, oust Novak from pro tennis because he does not want to do something that has nothing to do with tennis? Here's a guy who donated 1 million Euros at the start of the pandemic to Italy, and the same amount to Serbia. He hasn't done everything wrong...

And the solution to deport him is too extreme for me probably, surely they could have put him in quarantine or limit his movements, test him every day for COVID, make him wear a mask every second he's not on the field and what not? Deportation only sends a message.

I went through similar motions as you, and you can tell based on the comments I wrote earlier.
I get where you're coming from, but it rubs me the wrong way that a rich guy gets away with something that no one else could just because he can afford the best lawyers in Australia.
 
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I went through similar motions as you, and you can tell based on the comments I wrote earlier.
I get where you're coming from, but it rubs me the wrong way that a rich guy gets away with something that no one else could just because he can afford the best lawyers in Australia.
This is how it is all over the world as far as I know. Cash talks
 
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This is how it is all over the world as far as I know. Cash talks
Yes, but should it? Is that something we should all accept as a fact and as a given? Or can something be done about it?
I don't deny that the politician who made this decision is corrupt as fuck, but he did something that is 'right' from the POV of those who don't have money.
 
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Yes, but should it? Is that something we should all accept as a fact and as a given? Or can something be done about it?
I don't deny that the politician who made this decision is corrupt as fuck, but he did something that is 'right' from the POV of those who don't have money.
Tough to say, but I agree with capitalism over socialism all day. I think the future will hold a better system, but right now, we got the best we can.
 
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I do want to be clear that I am not against vaccines. Many vaccines have saved many lives. I do not trust this corona vaccine. My vaccine hesitancy end there.
 
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it rubs me the wrong way that a rich guy gets away with something that no one else could just because he can afford the best lawyers in Australia.
And what exactly is he getting away with here, or for that matter, possibly could? Being able to be there for two weeks for a single purpose, work hard and recover (and not much else), promote the sport (and himself) and not come back for a year?

In any case, the entire argument of the Aussie government is based on the fact that he could fuel or give credence to the antivax movement in Australia. That's it! His medical exemption from vaccination, his application form...everything was (directly or indirectly) validated by the government.
 
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the unvaxx are selfish? that is a huge misnomer. The selfish ones push their agenda on us. I am not asking you to inject yourself. This is a twisted view of the facts.

Our cdc came out and admitted 42% of the 850k corona deaths are not from corona. They lied the entire time. They admitted it. When someone lies 50% of the time, you dont tend to trust them.

Selfless people don’t harass and demand the strip of another person’s bodily autonomy for their own fake sense of cuddly blanked “security”, and then pat themselves on the back. Selfless people volunteer in hospitals.
 

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And what exactly is he getting away with here, or for that matter, possibly could? Being able to be there for two weeks for a single purpose, work hard and recover (and not much else), promote the sport (and himself) and not come back for a year?
I mean, yeah, all of the above when many people can't even get into the country in the first place and haven't been able to for the past 2 years.

That is 100% the Australian people's problem, as you correctly pointed out a few pages back. If the Australian people are truly angry about Djokovic potentially "getting away with it," they should realize they're being played (pun intended) and vote the corrupt politician out of the office.
 
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i stand with him... vaccines for rona are trash. masks are trash. I highly doubt many are against him.

We live in interesting times, This is the first time in history that the effectiveness of a vaccine is being blamed on 10, 20% minority who haven’t taken it, and who'v for the most part had the desease and recovered from it. yours truly included. 🤷

That said you should be free to get vaxxed, And if you don't want to then don't. I for one don't blame whats-his-name for waiting out the results of (finally) currently conducted research into adenovirus-based vaccine induced spike protiën blood clothing...,

And not wanting to be part of the "coïncidental" 318 cardiac arrests and 178 deaths among jabbed professional primetime athletes in 2021.

I know right? such an entitled rich selfish bastard 😅
 
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We live in interesting times, This is the first time in history that the effectiveness of a vaccine is being blamed on 10, 20% minority who haven’t taken it, and who'v for the most part had the desease and recovered from it. yours truly included. 🤷

That said you should be free to get vaxxed, And if you don't want to then don't. I for one don't blame whats-his-name for waiting out the results of (finally) currently conducted research into adenovirus-based vaccine induced spike protiën bloth clothing...,

And not wanting to be part of the "coïncidental" 318 cardiac arrests and 178 deaths among jabbed professional primetime athletes in 2021.

I know right? such an entitled rich selfish bastard 😅
Are you my brother from a long last land and we somehow met here? I agree 110%
 
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That said you should be free to get vaxxed, And if you don't want to then don't. I for one don't blame whats-his-name for waiting out the results of (finally) currently conducted research into adenovirus-based vaccine induced spike protiën bloth clothing...,

And not wanting to be part of the "coïncidental" 318 cardiac arrests and 178 deaths among jabbed professional primetime athletes in 2021.
When is the reversible anti-vaccine vaccine coming? 😟