Took 12 years for a flu vaccine. We waited then. Same with polio. Your statement is factually incorrect. Get on with your life, people like me wont force you to do anything. I ask the same.So what we all should have done is sat around for another x number of years with nobody vaccinated, the strongest strains of the virus still circulating and people dropping like flies, until all the nutters on the Internet are satisfied with the vaccine trial results (which will never happen) . Great logic
I said it before and I'll say it again, what an absolute shock that the person circling the drain of alt-right conspiracy theories is also an anti-vaxxer.
The vast majority of the world population is against you. If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem. We are trying to get on with our lives and get back to normal and you are holding us back.
Asking an SJW to grant you the same human right you would grant him..Took 12 years for a flu vaccine. We waited then. Same with polio. Your statement is factually incorrect. Get on with your life, people like me wont force you to do anything. I ask the same.
yup. and i'm not even antivaxx. Like i said. I'm fine with it being on the market and you taking, however many shots they offer you.but let's be honest, antivaxx or not, taking the alternatives (Ivermectin, feminizing HRT) is batshit insane
I read this and now I don't know.but let's be honest, antivaxx or not, taking the alternatives (Ivermectin, feminizing HRT) is batshit insane
Right, I have not vaxxed or masked and not been sick once. I also have never taken a flu vax and never had the flu. Ive been growing my own food for 15 years and in that time I havent even had a cold.yup. and i'm not even antivaxx. Like i said. I'm fine with it being on the market and you taking, however many shots they offer you.
I just don't think it fullfills its promise but seen as there's billions invested and political heads will roll in case of said failure (which might very well happen) this falls firmly into the catagory "too big to fail"
i've been jabbed once and still got the rona, my parents three times and got the rona. and the stats seem to even it out so.
I read this and now I don't know.
Based on the current very low- to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review...pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Based on the current very low- to low-certainty evidence, we are uncertain about the efficacy and safety of ivermectin used to treat or prevent COVID-19. The completed studies are small and few are considered high quality. Several studies are underway that may produce clearer answers in review updates. Overall, the reliable evidence available does not support the use ivermectin for treatment or prevention of COVID-19 outside of well-designed randomized trials
For sure, it's a question worth investigating.Right, but the study itself showed interesting results. I am not advocating for taking it, but I think looking for other options can be good.
Moderate-certainty evidence finds that large reductions in COVID-19 deaths are possible using ivermectin. Using ivermectin early in the clinical course may reduce numbers progressing to severe disease. The apparent safety and low cost suggest that ivermectin is likely to have a significant impact on the SARS-CoV-2 pandemic globally.
That is interesting. Good find manFor sure, it's a question worth investigating.
Just dug up this other article from June 2021 which concluded in the following:
Removing my own personal bias, this article suggests that Ivermectin is better than naysayers think. But, this study relies on data from Elgazzar, et al., which was retracted by the editorial. So the June 2021 article needs to be updated, and their calculations need to be performed again without the data from Elgazzar.
Yeah, in hindsight it's interesting to look at. The problem is that it and most other studies that analyzed Ivermectin as treatment for COVID relied heavily on that withdrawn Elgazzar study. That study had a lot of data and didn't even go through proper peer-review; it was just a pre-print that went viral online.That is interesting. Good find man
From bonny scotland, whos what.. 85/ 90% jabbed? that itty bitty uptick^ thats the "pandemic of the unvaxxed" dont you know?
At least according to this Alex jones esq source
Super duper product. Well worth spending billions on that could have been spend on ITU beds and wages..
COVID-19 statistical report - 12 January 2022 - COVID-19 statistical report - Publications - Public Health ScotlandThis weekly release by Public Health Scotland presents data on COVID-19 across NHSScotlandpublichealthscotland.scot
how? where's the lie? point it out to me.Pages 36 and 42 of the study are jarring to look at, but what happens if you normalize by their respective unvaccinated, 1 dose, 2 dose, and booster/3rd dose populations?
This is one of those cases when you can lie with statistics, even if the data is coming from an honest source.
So with 90% of your populus vaxxed, 80% are still ending up in the hospitals/dying? Most cases perhaps, but surely not pretty much the exact same massive number? (you'd think 60 or 55%, rest of the ITU rooms the 15% unvaxxed.)It doesn't matter much if 80%-something of hospitalizations and deaths are coming from vaccinated people when 85-90% of the population has been jabbed. Of course most of your cases in hospitalizations and deaths will be from people that received a vaccination.
well there's that small little uptick I mentioned. But it dwarfs in the overall scope of things.I'd be more interested in knowing, okay, how many hospitalizations and deaths are from unvaxx, and how many unvaxx people are there in total. My guess is that the % of people hospitalized/dying unvaxx relative to the total unvaxx population will be much, much higher than that for vaccinated people.
Sociologists say that in addition to an influential culture of alternative medicine, the vaccine resistance is fueled by a strong tradition of decentralized government that tends to feed distrust of rules imposed from the capital — and by a far-right ecosystem that knows how to exploit both.
Opposition to vaccines, said Pia Lamberty of CeMAS, a Berlin-based research organization focused on disinformation and conspiracy theories, is in some ways the long tail of the populist nationalist movements that shook up European politics for a decade.
“Radical anti-vaxxers are not a huge group, but it’s big enough to cause a problem in the pandemic,” Ms. Lamberty said. “It shows the success of the far-right cheerleading on this issue and the failure of mainstream politicians to take it seriously enough.”
As a result, in parts of Europe, “whether you’re vaccinated or not has become almost a political identifier like in the United States,” she added.