OUT The Boy From The Future - Lights Off (Horizons Darker Rework) [LANDSCAPES MUSIC 050]

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The Boy From The Future; Horizons
Release title
Lights Off Reworked
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Landscapes Music
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Sep 15, 2022
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Hello guys, ✌️

Landscapes Cover - 50.jpg


I'm finally celebrating my first 50 releases and wanted to do something special.

Official preview is now uploaded on SoundCloud, while already on Promo for some days and it'll be out on Beatport & Spotify from Sept 15th. (Pre-order to start in a couple of days).

https://soundcloud.com/landscapes-music-official%2Fthe-boy-from-the-future-lights-off-horizons-darker-rework-landscapes-050
I know this might not be someone's cup of tea but I am 100% open to hear your thoughts about it, as always, including any sort of feedback, good or not you might have.

Starting from release 050 going on I'll be focusing more and more on this type of progressive for any future demo submission, just in case someone wonders.
 
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To me your music has always had tons of potential, i love the overall drive, percussions, bass, all the sounds you use in your tracks but.. for me there is just something missing that makes me wanna listen to them again. Perhaps some additional melodic elements would help and a more sense of progression. But with that said, you are easily better then 99% of everyone else doing the same type of music. I think this track really promising and im looking forward to hear the full version.

Btw i think you have a great opportunity to expand your business beyond just streams, because you will never earn money on just streams. Sell samples packs, tutorials and stuff like that. I would love to see a tutorial from you making an oldschool coldharbourish progressive trancer
 
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I would definitely agree with the 'danne here. IMO it's the drums that could be improved. Imagine if this had some softer and more evolving drums and FX! Would've been a clear TOTY contender for me. But even now you can definitely hear the effort that went into this, so kudos for that!
 
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To me your music has always had tons of potential, i love the overall drive, percussions, bass, all the sounds you use in your tracks but.. for me there is just something missing that makes me wanna listen to them again. Perhaps some additional melodic elements would help and a more sense of progression. But with that said, you are easily better then 99% of everyone else doing the same type of music. I think this track really promising and im looking forward to hear the full version.

Btw i think you have a great opportunity to expand your business beyond just streams, because you will never earn money on just streams. Sell samples packs, tutorials and stuff like that. I would love to see a tutorial from you making an oldschool coldharbourish progressive trancer

Thank you so much, sincerely appreciate your opinion about my music and about myself, it may seem nothing for many but it means a lot for small unknown producers like me.
I am certainly not dreaming of making money by just producing and releasing music, I would be crazy! I am quite a lot busy with regular daily job that I sometimes have very little time for music production that I almost forget to switch on my decks for some mixes. Just saying, it's been hectic period in the last couple of years but I hope 2023 ideas/projects I have may become reality. Selling sample packs or tutorials to honest it's a bit too much for someone like me who still has to learn a lot re: sound design.
I would definitely agree with the 'danne here. IMO it's the drums that could be improved. Imagine if this had some softer and more evolving drums and FX! Would've been a clear TOTY contender for me. But even now you can definitely hear the effort that went into this, so kudos for that!

.....this connects to the above comment of mine. It's because of feedback like these ones (and the others I've got via other social channels) that I will improve and, trust me, I want to improve in all aspects, both technically and artistically. So, thanks for stopping by to share that with me.

In a few days I'm going to publish (Youtube, SoundCloud, Mixcloud, etc etc) a mix I did for-fun in studio, with some of the tracks I've produced recently for people to have a better understanding of the musical directions I am taking with my Horizons project and using it as a reference, when sharing feedback with me about new tracks coming in the future.
 
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I like the track. Think its very nice sounding.

Prog tracks can sometimes be too drawn out/developing and subtle for their own good. You'll probably hear the track 100 times when putting it together and those subtleties will become more pronounced over time for you. You'll feel like it achieves a good musical identity. For the listener who may only play 1-10 times it needs more identity and boldness to be there, even if its just used sporadically. That could be key changes, melodic changes, percussive standouts. It will help with overal rise and falls of tension I think.
 
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I like the track. Think its very nice sounding.

Prog tracks can sometimes be too drawn out/developing and subtle for their own good. You'll probably hear the track 100 times when putting it together and those subtleties will become more pronounced over time for you. You'll feel like it achieves a good musical identity. For the listener who may only play 1-10 times it needs more identity and boldness to be there, even if its just used sporadically. That could be key changes, melodic changes, percussive standouts. It will help with overal rise and falls of tension I think.

Hello, thanks a lot! 🙏

Sure thing, listening to your own track thousand of times will sometimes make you not hear those subtle gaps or make you feel like it's done while instead there still is room for improvement and work. Which, most of the times, ends up with being related to those little, minor details which, on some occasions, may become the cherry on top of the cake. That "one" thing that would make the whole track worth a second spin, deffo be looking into this aspect too with my next works.
 
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Officially released, full extended track uploaded automatically by YT here (soon I'll upload same on Landscapes channel too!




If you fancy getting to know a bit more about myself, here's a fresh new interview done for Progressive Astronaut e-blog:
Horizons [Interview] ✌️
 
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Its not (only) the drums per se, its the actual rhythms and how they interact with eachother more so that I find to be the problem... its too bareboned (if thats a word,prolly not), too sterile, too 'basic' , and the drums just barely gets the tracks pushed forward. It lacks some momentum and drive.. and variation. Simply put it lacks good exciting rhythm. Lower bpm isnt necessarily the villian here either btw.

Seondly I think theres not enough musical/melodic/themes ideas you present us with here. If you dont want/cant work with that I suggest trying to bring in a bit more variation to the arrangement, it could be rhythmically, sonically or dynamically. The atmosphere of the track is good, but its not enough unfortunaly. But what ive heard from you before this isnt something you seem to work that much with, as your tracks in the past are also in this more slow/deep/atmosheric more 'sterile' style. Maybe we are criticizing something that can not be critiqued and the style you present is just the style you like and our opinions might not really apply to your work because we are wishing for something completely different than what you intended for.

I think the track has some potential, and i know its so easy to sit on front of a keyboard and just moan about others work not being "good enough", but its hard to to really put into words what many tracks are missing in trance these days.
 

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I think the track has some potential, and i know its so easy to sit on front of a keyboard and just moan about others work not being "good enough", but its hard to to really put into words what many tracks are missing in trance these days.

I just posted this exact same message in another thread. I cant put it into words either, but I always come land on sterile and basic too often, even if I don't think its right. I am not saying this is how I feel about this release, as I still need to listen to it more, but it's like the modern sound does not have what it takes to compete with what we got used to in the past. It's not even about the bpm, the track idea, the melodies or what have you. I sometimes listen to an old track and in the first 5 seconds I feel warm inside, and I don't even know if I will like what follows for the next 8 minutes. Sometimes I dont like it, but at least the sounds themselves have a soul to them. Is this nostalgia or preference, or is it better? I feel like it has something.
 
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Its not (only) the drums per se, its the actual rhythms and how they interact with eachother more so that I find to be the problem... its too bareboned (if thats a word,prolly not), too sterile, too 'basic' , and the drums just barely gets the tracks pushed forward. It lacks some momentum and drive.. and variation. Simply put it lacks good exciting rhythm. Lower bpm isnt necessarily the villian here either btw.

Seondly I think theres not enough musical/melodic/themes ideas you present us with here. If you dont want/cant work with that I suggest trying to bring in a bit more variation to the arrangement, it could be rhythmically, sonically or dynamically. The atmosphere of the track is good, but its not enough unfortunaly. But what ive heard from you before this isnt something you seem to work that much with, as your tracks in the past are also in this more slow/deep/atmosheric more 'sterile' style. Maybe we are criticizing something that can not be critiqued and the style you present is just the style you like and our opinions might not really apply to your work because we are wishing for something completely different than what you intended for.

I think the track has some potential, and i know its so easy to sit on front of a keyboard and just moan about others work not being "good enough", but its hard to to really put into words what many tracks are missing in trance these days.

Hello! Thanks, totally understand what you mean, don't worry!

As you said my productions have been very often focused on being atmospheric rather than very-extra melodic, besides of some exceptions I suppose back to when I was making 138 uplifting stuff with the old moniker.

The musical-them idea you mean I feel like you meant to say you don't recognise a proper leading top melody that could be somehow "remembered" when thinking about this tune, at least that's how I understood your feedback. In that case then...yes, it is true, simply 'cause I felt like giving more importance to the background sounds, which, some may say are well done, some other may instead dislike them anyway.

It's all part of "the game", isn't it?
With regards to the first (and imo) more important feedback, you're focusing on the fact the writing is mainly focused on sounding "schoolish". Which, might still be understandable since I am trying to put every single element in its right place, so sometimes it could happen that I am so focused on that sound (don't know, let's say for example on that specific open hat) that I forget about the overall impact of the sound once blended into the mix: is this sound still interesting or is it adding something unique?
When you produce there's always an important aspect to keep in mind: the mood. The excitement you may have when you really feel "this" to be the perfect tune, according to your mood. The tune that describes exactly what you feel in that moment. So, this can sometimes drive you away from being rational: I guess the lack of "non-basic" sounds could be due to the fact that in that specific occasion(s) I might have felt like that groove being exactly what I wanted. The momentum, the drive, the variations which you felt lacking, to me where instead the long wait for those subtle elements (like sub-bass or mid pads) changing or evolving with one-two extra layers.
And I totally agree with you, it's not about bpm, rather what the general impact of the tune sounds like to someone who has never sat in the studio during the making of. (Not criticizing uh! Just saying, only the person sitting in front of the pc making that track understands exactly WHY something is there or why something is not there, so the other people will always have a more rational approach to the track).

Last thing, about atmosphere: I've done a lot horizons productions indeed, and only a few of them had some sort of "more solid" melodic theme/riff (Thinkinh now of my Last Stop Bloemendaal or probably The hanging gardens of babyloon). Most of my tracks are mainly supposed to describe my mood rather than being "club-only" oriented. Which is some kind of suicide for someone who "pretends" (lol) to make club music I know BUT...here's why I feel I am doing it right. Because I love exactly what I am doing and know that I will need to improve technically to achieve the perfection of this style of mine, without getting to close or identical to the mainstream trends of these days which I rarely feel like mine.

Hope this helps understanding! But thanks, as always, for stopping by!
 
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I just posted this exact same message in another thread. I cant put it into words either, but I always come land on sterile and basic too often, even if I don't think its right. I am not saying this is how I feel about this release, as I still need to listen to it more, but it's like the modern sound does not have what it takes to compete with what we got used to in the past. It's not even about the bpm, the track idea, the melodies or what have you. I sometimes listen to an old track and in the first 5 seconds I feel warm inside, and I don't even know if I will like what follows for the next 8 minutes. Sometimes I dont like it, but at least the sounds themselves have a soul to them. Is this nostalgia or preference, or is it better? I feel like it has something.

Hello,
that's exactly what happens to me when I listen almost ANY trance tracks from 1997-2003. I spot them all from their first 10 seconds, in most of the cases. Easy, very very easy because there was much more attention on details, on being unique, on crafting a unique sound and making it yours.
Evolution of music is good, being lost in the anonymous music trends of these days is not that good.
Like I said on my post here above, I just want to be sure that I am doing the exact style of electronic music that I like, without worrying to much whether it sounds more or less close to the top-5 labels out there.
There's no fun in doing so. One of the best feedback I received in the last couple of years from some people was that no matter how good or bad your tracks are but you can easily spot an Horizons track in the middle of a dj set. Now, this is, as a producer, the best feedback ever. It gives me the answer I want: go on, trust on what I want to produce, on the style I want it to be and always be eager to make it better, day by day (without fake ghosts behind of you that would have definitely made my life so easy for sure).