(Why) are there no new ideas in trance?

[Daysleeper]

What exactly would you like implemented in trance from that track? I don't think it's particularly interesting when it comes to storytelling or build. It's loopy. Trance for me (good trance) is trying to dodge the 4x4 loopy beat and nature and make you forget it's an actual repetitiv music genre. It's about doing something exciting and creative around that beat. Not a fan of changing TOO much of the nature and origins of the music tbh

 

[dmgtz96]

What exactly would you like implemented in trance from that track? I don't think it's particularly interesting when it comes to storytelling or build. It's loopy. Trance for me (good trance) is trying to dodge the 4x4 loopy beat and nature and make you forget it's an actual repetitiv music genre. It's about doing something exciting and creative around that beat. Not a fan of changing TOO much of the nature and origins of the music tbh

Mostly the "lead synth" from the beginning, and the general dreamy ethereal feeling. It reminds me of early 1990s, very dreamy trance from the old labels

 

[Nerio]

The new idea was this project. The early 2000 was really wild today i find E Nomine project "E Nomine is a German musical project formed in 1999 by producers Christian Weller and Friedrich "Fritz" Graner. Their music, which they call monumental vocal style, is a combination of trance, techno, and vocals which closely resemble Gregorian singing and chanting"

 

[Progrez]

I think the one thing that's lacking in a lot of modern day is memories. You can attach certain memories and or moments to certain tracks when you first heard it and re-listening to them recreates or brings back those feelings once again.

 

[Bobby Summa]

I think the one thing that's lacking in a lot of modern day is memories. You can attach certain memories and or moments to certain tracks when you first heard it and re-listening to them recreates or brings back those feelings once again.

Could be a symptom of time, that in, over time many tracks are created and released. Back Catalogue gets bigger. Perhaps each individual track doesn’t stick out as much because there lacks a uniqueness when a genre has been going for 4 decades. ( or that its so hard to create something different after many variations have been done). Maybe People have been influenced in a direction and its so hard to actually make something unique ( and thus hard for it to be especially memorable) …….But i don’t think it means the music isn’t as good these days. Perhaps theres a limit in trance as to what can sound good together with a 4/4 beat and upbeat pace ……But that wont stop us trying and ‘perhaps’ hopefully achieving something unique.

 

[Bobby Summa]

Was thinking about the advice ive been given about structuring trance. Also whether it’s possible to have new ideas in trance. Started a track and just put 10 layers down. 16 bar loop style to arrange another time. I don’t usually layer as much before arranging . This is the 10 or so layers looping in a 28 second clip.

Does it sound different & is it even Trance? Or is it like something else?

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[marvas]

@Bobby Summa those 28 seconds sound really nice, curious to see what you can build around them. There are people with really strict definitions of what trance should be, with a certain bpm, or percution, etc, getting very technical about it. For me it's just the feeling that I get from a song. A lot of perfectly executed and balanced songs don't say anything to me, there has to be a bit of a soul in them.

And I completely agree with @Progrez, it's the memories that you associate with a song that makes it more valuable. As we get older we associate our youth with some songs, inevitably starting to say: they don't make them as they used to.

 

[Gagi]

As we get older we associate our youth with some songs, inevitably starting to say: they don't make them as they used to.

I would agree but with a huge caveat in that argument.

I discovered trance in 2011. So in the next 2 years, I discovered so many tracks from that era which I instantly fell in love with. That's what I have nostalgic feelings towards, but after that my interest in new trance started to decline.

But I would never say a 2012 track I discovered in 2012 is better than a 1993 track I discovered in 2022.

 

[marvas]

Sounds to me like you've refined your taste in music and prefer the classics.

 

[erickUO]

This is a nice read. It also happened in movie, media, automotive, architecture and so on.

The age of average — Alex Murrell

In the early 1990s, two Russian artists named Vitaly Komar and Alexander Melamid hired a market research firm to survey the public on what they wanted in a work of art. Across 11 countries they then set about painting a piece that reflected the results. Each piece was intended to be a unique a colla

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There are many reasons why this might have happened.

Perhaps when times are turbulent, people seek the safety of the familiar. Perhaps it’s our obsession with quantification and optimisation. Or maybe it’s the inevitable result of inspiration becoming globalised.

Regardless of the reasons, it seems that just as Komar and Melamid produced the “people’s choice” in art, contemporary companies produce the people’s choice in almost every category of creativity.