Right, but the issue was that will I am never cleared the rights
Funnily enough, will I am released a second song titled "Let's Go," but this one featuring j Balvin. Clever way to optimize search engine results (hide his embarrassing Let's Go?)
Did trance ever have any "scandals?"
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Funnily enough, will I am released a second song titled "Let's Go," but this one featuring j Balvin. Clever way to optimize search engine results (hide his embarrassing Let's Go?)
JohnnyBarefoot1992
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Ok, now I see.
Still, I have nothing but respect for her.
For me she will forever be the Queen of Vocal Trance.
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Yeh, we've all experienced the wrath of the anti-vax, flat earther, WEF, Freedom Fighters online of late :/)
I deleted my Twitter because of the constant bullshit from these idiots. Amusingly endorsing far-right politicians as well, and big fans of Elon and Rogan which really makes me laugh.
The very antithesis of what the dance music scene was borne out of: togetherness, liberal leaning, anti-establishment, anti-money etc. etc.
As for ghost-produced motivational speaking crush velvet jacket wearing Insta-twots, they should take their money and buy themselves into some other scene. Unfathomable how they're not run out of town.
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Just in general. Wouldn't want to name anyone individually. I'm sure they see no issue with making a load of money and then buying your way into a scene.
Imagine asking someone to paint a canvas then pretending it's your own. Wouldn't happen in any other art form, so why is it acceptable in trance?
Especially when you see them in interviews giving 'advice' to up and coming trance producers. We're through the looking glass!!
Everyone should identify these individuals and demand a live insta feed of them actually making a track completely from scratch... that'd sort out the producers from the fakers
Imagine asking someone to paint a canvas then pretending it's your own. Wouldn't happen in any other art form, so why is it acceptable in trance?
Especially when you see them in interviews giving 'advice' to up and coming trance producers. We're through the looking glass!!
Everyone should identify these individuals and demand a live insta feed of them actually making a track completely from scratch... that'd sort out the producers from the fakers
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Just in general. Wouldn't want to name anyone individually. I'm sure they see no issue with making a load of money and then buying your way into a scene.
Imagine asking someone to paint a canvas then pretending it's your own. Wouldn't happen in any other art form, so why is it acceptable in trance?
Especially when you see them in interviews giving 'advice' to up and coming trance producers. We're through the looking glass!!
Everyone should identify these individuals and demand a live insta feed of them actually making a track completely from scratch... that'd sort out the producers from the fakers
Well thats exactly what ive been saying for years - how can they get any satisfaction at all is beyond me...
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musk and rogan are about as liberal and anti-establishment as they get m8
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I always suspected Obama and the Clinton’s secretly admired hitler, but we were talking about rogan/musk didn’t we?
.. an Asperger clumsily “throwing his heart out” is not a sieg heil man.. like.. even the beeping ADL could see that
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JohnnyBarefoot1992
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This!I always suspected Obama and the Clinton’s secretly admired hitler, but we were talking about rogan/musk didn’t we?
.. an Asperger clumsily “throwing his heart out” is not a sieg heil man.. like.. even the beeping ADL could see that
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I'm sorry, with all due respect, but what is your basis for that? And why does music, and in particular, Dance music, has to be politicised like this? Shouldn't music, and in particular, Trance Music, be an escape from what we perceive as the bad problems of society? Are you really going to be that sectarist to the point of pin-pointing an entire plethora of music genres to a specific political substrate? I'm sorry, but this is just non-sense.
People in general listen to music, any kind of music, in order to escape from what they perceive as being world problems, society problems or even personal problems. I can give you my personal example: The main reason I started listening to Trance Music in late 2008, when I was 16 years old, was not only because the music is genuinely great, but also because my life completely sucked back then. I was alone, and I had very little to no friends, and Trance Music came out as an escape, to the point that, yes, I was kind of an "Ayatollah" when it came to the defence of that kind of music in particular, it never had to do with politics, I could not care less about it back then, and even after becoming somewhat more politically awaken in 2015-'16, I still didn't want politics to be mixed with music because it's mostly unhelpful and it distracts us from what we should really be focused on. And, quite frankly, this was the last place where I wanted to hear about politics, not because I don't have a personal opinion about certain issues, I most certainly have, I just don't think it's in any way positive for us to mix the two, especially to the point of pin-pointing a specific political leaning to an entire plethora of music genres, especially because you don't know everyone, you don't know what people think, you don't know what they defend, and should that really matter? Should we really start focusing our energies on that? Once again, I'm not saying you're not entitled to have your own personal opinions about certain political issues of the time being, but, please, do not politicise music! That is the last thing we should be doing!
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Agreed. And I also think its funny that, on the one hand there’s an unironic claim the rise of anti-establishment flat earth anti WEF globalism, freedom fighter activism is somehow the anti-thesis of dance music and should be snubbed at from a left-liberal, technocratic viewpoint...
Only to be followed up 2 posts later by the claim that the entire electronic dance music scene has its roots in said anti-establishment anti-big government/corporate sentiment, and that that should be respected.
Like: Whats it gonna be?
You can’t have both.Trance originated in Berlin after the Wall fell, where young people sought to get away from the absolute leftist-socialist, anti-capitalist, anti-freedom hell-hole that was the Soviet Union, and its monopoly on culture and social constructivism. (something current “liberal leaning” political streams do not seem to shy away from nowadays, mind you). And proceeded to, from the abandoned rublels of the great-globalizing-equality empire, build a beautiful, free, and successful entertainment industry where millions of people can dream away to music.
@Super-Frog Saves Tokyo does have a point in that, Yes, like with all music/ cultural streams, there is politics inevitably trailing in front and behind, as is with most things in life but:
1 the idea that Trance has politics attached to it, Is not the win-win for left-liberal-technocracy ideology that he thinks it is – as its inception is a counter reaction to a lot of what that has to offer and currently devolved into, rather then a push for it, ab initio speaking.
And 2: the original ethos of that scene/Trance was demonstrably far more about escapism, and Freedom fróm said politics or large parts thereof, not a weaponization or use for said politics, like was the case with say: 60's hippy music.
Personally, but that’s me, I think any snubbery from high-up towards, mostly working class, “uneducated gammon” who anno 2025 seek freedom and self-determination from the likes of big gov/ big pharma/ big corp et all.. is far more the antithesis óf the spirit of Trance and that original scene, then their presence and woes online.
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As someone actually autistic, I would kindly ask you to go fuck yourself. He didn't do that gesture because it was a tic (which is a symptom of Tourette's, btw), but because he's a South African billionaire whose family got their wealth from Apartheid-era emerald mining.I always suspected Obama and the Clinton’s secretly admired hitler, but we were talking about rogan/musk didn’t we?
.. an Asperger clumsily “throwing his heart out” is not a sieg heil man.. like.. even the beeping ADL could see that
And this is about as political I want to go in this thread, feeling you've already derailed it, and I don't want to derail it even further.
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A someone who's also diagnosed with autism, and who has family members with said Asperger syndrome, I would kindly ask you to go fuck yourself back and your dunning krugerism.
Awkward or Poorly controlled motorics under stress or exitement is definitly a symptom associated with Asperger, not just tourettes.
I didn't go in to politics here, you and Superfrog did, I merely reacted to it.
And when even the ADL, who's somewhat of an authority on the issue, comes out and goes, "no, that wasn't a sieg heil, you morons" you might want to go and critically scratch your, frankly, deranged activist head and blatant confirmation bias.
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Arnoud
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I maybe out of line here. But the "pronouns" signature is a dead giveaway. You know this person is going to an activist or troll.
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she is free to be a left leaning activist if she so desires/believes. I have no problem with that. If, however, she starts throwing F-bombs and bullshit-arguments around, She is going to be called out on that.