- Jul 17, 2020
as far as the UK is concerned the radical 'extreme' left appear mostly to be a naive and misguided younger generation, ...The extreme nature of the pink hair SJW ranting on twitter does seem less of a worry to me I have to say.
well, worry less live more, but the stats ,and that’s including the UK up and till to 2020, don’t agree with you m8. European Union Terrorism Situation and Trend report (TE-SAT) 2020
(European) politically motivated left wing terrorism is quadruple that of its right wing counterpart in almost every instance.
The US comparatively has a far bigger problem with the extreme right than the UK does, although the stats on that are somewhat skewed since violent antifa actions aren't officially considered terrorism (yet) and the majority of the 40% domestic US terrorism is anti-abortion violence (arguably religiously motivated terrorism, rather than extreme right, but that aside).
also for the record, I don’t think they’re less worrying, What i'm saying is the amounts are disproportional comparatively and there’s a lot of general tolerance/ silence towards dangerous leftist ideas/ideologies, recently demonstrated by you brushing them aside as “just few stupid people with just a few stupid ideas”. Terrorism even aside, The genocidal track record of tankie ideas throughout history doubles that of Hitler, Mussolin and Pinochet combined and are arguably as immoral and potentially more destructive as their right wing counterparts. linked recent stats just being 1 example of the effect in this day and age.
Facists/ white supremacists, like say (Radical) black identiarians like those in the US or south africa: will go after you for your born-with ancesteral history and race characteristics.
Communists/ tankies : will go after you for your born-with or earned possession characteristics.
Radical Islamists/Christians: Will go after you for you for your born-with or chosen(non) religion and level of doctrine following, (if its deviant from theirs)
and then there's the overly present (ethno) sepratists, so Spain/Ukraine etc. Who basically want their "own" country/ government, which are irrelevant to this discussion so we'll leave them in the middle for this debate.
The white supremacist one seems to be the general thing most people feel understandably alarmed about, but in all practical reality, they are also the most irrelevant, (Aside from maybe the (Radical) feminists/Terfs) in terms of how they impellent policy and affect you and your daily life.
Actuall white supremacist/nazi movements are a political force that is completely expended. They haven’t gotten (and won’t get) back from their catastrophic moral, cultural and physical defeat in the mid 20th century. They have not gained and will not gain any significant political traction because they’re completely beyond the general societal moral rubicon and rightly so. Everybody and their mom including you and I hates Nazi’s. Which is why the Fascist slur is so powerful (and so often misused).
They hold 0 institutional power, No company wil hire you if you “freely” identify as one, if only for the P&R debacle. And the only reason you keep hearing about them is 1; aforementioned Lone wolfes black-swan events, which demonstrably pale in comparison to other forms of terrorism and 2; because the media/aforementioned constant head-in-the-sand autistic focus on them, and the somewhat hypocrite apologetics towards their ideological counterparts and their violent/terrorist actions. which coïncidently is also why they've been gaining some minor tracktion/number increase (at least in the US). In all Real politik sense though, The Hillary speech/Alt right and currently residing in oblivion Richard Spencer et. Co are probably as high as they’re ever going to get in terms of influence. I think that if you treat them the same way the West Boro babtist church are treated, they’ll end up the same, ebbing away into absolute oblivion and irrelevance, where they belong.
On the other side of the coin though, The far left, and i'm even leaving out the terrorist factor for now, is doing a damn sight better job of undermining and destroying lots of the sacrosanct principles on which (IMVHO) the best and most pleasant systems/set of countries on the planet are based upon. The Radical left are in politics, They’re in media, They’re in education, They’re in the boardroom of large influential companies. Where they have and currently still are very busy not "just" advocating for more government, the climate and social programs, but things like:
- restricting free speech/press and the right too ridicule certain things
-advocating for group instead of individual rights,
-advocating for race or sex privileges (either for or against),
-creating race-specific spaces/segregation,
_adocating for historical revisionism
- social distribution of wealth based on race, sex or class
etc. all in the name of "equality"
Coïndidently, facists/far right are very much in favour of most of those things,
only then for white people. Which should tell you exactly why these ideas are so dangerous inspite of the way politicians glosspaper wrap them.
Side note: if you want a comedic clip that fortunately hasn't been harammed yet, this one absolutely nails the issue and its hilarious.
I find this whole 'extreme' labelling utterly ridiculous if I’m honest, lacking substance and feeling like regurgitated sound-bites from a soap-opera media too embedded in identity politics.
Outrage equals clicks and money for a declining industry basically. Flipside Case in point: When the ethnically Black/Latino leader of the US Proud Boys is on camera denouncing white supremacy even clearer than the 16-what times Trump did over the last 4 years.. You can honestly ask yourself whether or not the pile of headlines and articles calling them “a racist extreme right white supremacy movement” is nothing more than absurd hyperbolic journo activism and intellectual dishonesty. So 100% agreed on the way the media labels things/identity politics.
It's how the Americans convince the public that free healthcare is some sort of scary 'health communism', ... banning assault rifles and small fire-arms is a good idea, yet US conservatives unthinkable.
Well yes and no. Healthcare and possesion of firearms are a whole different topic and IMO much more a result of how the US vs the Uk or Canada are setup constitutionally instead of how the media pushes back or forth. Its also a practical issue. The following video illustrates the problem why the US can't get something like an NHS of the ground.
In the UK ....Where's the integrity behind this idea of the scary Marxist take-over?
like mentioned above, its not júst things like wanting social programs and more tax the rich. though one could classify that as marxist by itself.
Its things like "hate speech" laws being introduced that forbid you from being in any way shape or form critical of Muhammad (and probably later the government), Its police arrest/ forced interregation about posting something as simple as "i don't think trans people are the same as biological human females". Its "critical race theory" which is now mandatory reading for all government personnel. Race theories, (Hitlers favorite topic by the way), Is now taught in schools and mandatory government reading m8 and its put there by people who identify as Marxists. who believe in group, rather then individual catagorisation. Because in the mind of the Marxist. you don't matter, only the sum/ group matters and its position in the dominance hierarchy towards other groups because remember, "ultimate equality" is the endgoal here.
^and that’s even going, not with a labour government, but a huge majority Tory one by the way (!) Now I live next door country from you and so feel free to colour me stupid, but I find that, as not being such a fan of marx and his destructive Philosophy of Resentment, slightly alarming to say the least,